I only know a little of what it is like because I've seen a couple videos. I want to know stuff like what it focuses on and if it is fun to do or if it is difficult. Also, if you know it and you got in a fight with someone how affective was it?
What is seven star praying mantis kung fu like?
Seven Star Praying Manis is very similar to Wing Chun. In fact sometimes you will be competing in the same tournaments.
Reply:it is kung fu, if you ever taken kung fu, you know if not sure would would like it , but if i were you i would take a shaolin or kuo shu type of kung fu they teach many different animal forms of kung fu
meekoe2
11 degree chain belt
Sunday, April 26, 2009
Whats the Difference between Kung Fu, Hopkido, and Karate?
I know I am being very vague, becuase there are different styles of each but I would like to know becuase I really want to take one thats fits these requirements:
1.I like showy Flips and Handsprings
2.To fight with weapons
3.to get in shape
4.Relieve Stress
5.break cynder blocks with my fists
I know I watch too many movies But I have been dying to take some kind of martial art and I really want to learn somthing.
please Help!
Whats the Difference between Kung Fu, Hopkido, and Karate?
O.K. It sounds to me like you want Kung-Fu.
Kung-Fu is Chinese and is the oldest of them. It's got alot of flash and is very showy, they use some real cool looking weapons and it's good for winning tournaments. You will not break blocks or boards with it but you will do all the other stuff. It is not a very effective art for real life self defense.
Link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_mar...
Hapkido is a Korean art that involves locks and throwing. It has no weapons and doesn't sound like it meats any of your requirements. It could be effective in real life self defense after years of training.
Link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hapkido
Karate is a Japanese art and involves punching and kicking. This is the art where you break boards and blocks. Karate is the art that teaches how to throw a proper punch or kick using all of your body. The breaking of boards is used as an example to demonstrate this power. The weapons they use are Bo (staff), sword and Nunchaku (nun chucks). It only fits numbers 3 and 5 of your requirements. It is very effective for real life self defense.
Link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karate
Go to your local clubs and watch some classes
Good luck and HAVE FUN!
Reply:There is no short answer. All the martial art styles have much in common with each other. The things that you seek will depend more on the instructor than the style. The best approach is to visit some classes to get an idea of what is being taught, then talk with the instructor if you are interested in learning more. A good instructor will be happy to make time for you. If they don't, run away!
Don't expect to learn flips and handsprings in a traditional martial arts class. Try a gymnastics class for that.
Reply:Well, the difference is more in the school and not the style. if you want a more traditional training in the martial arts, you will fight with weapons, and relvieve stress. if you want something flashy, then you will break boards and flip around all over the place you'll get in shape with any art you take, depending on how seriously you study it. just like the guy before me said, visit some schools around your area and look at what they do. if you like what you see, try it out. But keep in mind that real martial arts are very little like what you see in the movies.
Reply:Hapkido is a korean martial arts that uses force redirection. It has lots of joint locks.
Karate is okinawan. It has lots of strikes.
Kung Fu (more appropriately "wushu") (and its chinese) is so varied and distinct that it defies easy definition. ALthough schools are very external (striking, strength based)
Just search wikipedia. I believe that they recently cleaned up the martial arts articles.
Reply:from what you described as what your looking for in a martial art, it sounds to me like wushu kung fu would be good for you.. you say you watch a lot of movies, you know jet li right? well, his primary art is wushu, he was actually a national champion in china when he was a child. wushu has become less of a martial art in sense of defense and more acrobatic in style, older masters and practioners call modern wushu, contemporary wushu, but none the less, it's a beautiful art full of high flying moves, deep stances, amazing aerial acrobatics, beautiful weapons forms and more.. http://www.ckfa-kungfu.com/wushu/
as for hapkido is an effective self-defense and as such employs joint locks, pressure points, throws, kicks, and other strikes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hapkido
karate, on the other hand is known primarily as a striking art, featuring punching, kicking, knee/elbow strikes, open handed, and breaking techniques: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karate
but from what you listed as your interests, i'd say wushu kung fu, or some form of chinese martial art might suit you best...
good luck!
Reply:If you want to do gymnastics as well as martial arts, you should try capoeira or wushu. They are very physically demanding and showy. Wushu also uses lots of weapons.
Reply:They are all spelled differently!
Reply:kung fu the moves you do reflex the image of different animal's it good for speed flips .hopkido came from akido basically it the same thing but you add kicks to it good for throwing people breaking bones coming out on top of a group of people and flipping them all at once the are good with swords and BO or staff
but the training is very intents. karate is good for kicks breaking block with fist but if i was you ill go for hopkidp its the best out of them all you learn more out of it and love the forms frome it
Reply:The best information source I know of and that I feel gives the most neutral, honest info is
http://www.atlantamartialarts.com/
Good Luck
Reply:they all kick
Reply:I have experience in Hapkido and Karate...some knowlegdge of Kung Fu so here goes:
First...Flips and Handsprings ... you are looking for XMA which is extreme martial arts and designed to be flashy but not effective in a real fight. You try and kick someone in the head and you just lost the fight... But it does look cool.
2) Weapons - all use weapons
3) All of these will get you in shape
4) all will relieve stress
5) Karate does breaks, Hapkido not really into breaking as its cousin art Tae Kwon Do is and Kung Fu does not do breaks (from what I have seen).
So, with that said...here are the basics.
Hapkido is, in layman's terms, a mix of aikido, karate, and tae kwon do. It includes defenses and strikes of karate, kicks of TKD, and joint/circular movements of aikido. There are differances, however, that is at a more detailed level. In a good school you will be required to kick, do rolls/flips (not handsprings etc but how to roll out of a lock).
A key principal of Hapkido (and Aikido) is to take the attackers energy and use it against him/her much like steven segal.
Karate is more force on force. Requires more strength training but an opponent whom is stronger is more likely to win than a weaker one. As to the physical training vs. Hapkido it really depends upon the school. I moved from NYC doing Hapkido at a great school to Vegas where I took up Kempo Karate where the school required almost no physical training (quite and found a good Hapkido school again).
Kung Fu will fall closer to Karate but a good school will also include some joint locks etc. Training again will be dependant upon the school.
Your best option is to figure out what style you like to learn first. I am cross training at this point which is a good balance. No art is better than the next as each has its strong/weak points. Try doing gymnastics and one art at a good school rather than gymnastics and an art you really like at a bad school...
Reply:well, if you want to do all those, i will recommend you something like ninjitsu, they do flips,fight with weapons, you get in shape and can be able to break stuff with your fist, even tho the last one i mentioned takes more practice than the others.
heres the thing, hapkido is more about using your opponent's attacking momentum against him (i used to practice hapkido) and its more about smooth movement making the opponent lose balance etc.
kung fu...theres different types of kung fu, from shaolin, seven stars praying mantis, to tai chi wich is a more calm style of kung fu.
same thing with karate, theres a lot of styles out there that maybe you can do all what you are looking for.
Reply:Kung Fu - Chinese
Hapkido - Korean
Karate - Japanese
All traditional martial arts. Hapkido works the best in the street.
Reply:all your requirements = kung fu
for flips, handsprings, acrobatic/gymnastic type stuff will be wushu, monkey style (5 animal form kung fu), and kung fu
fight with weapons, kung fu and the rest
relieve stress, get a punching bag and unleash your kung fu
breaking cinder blocks, kung fu
Reply:Kung fu has different meaning in animal forms hopkido is a style from Taekwondo and Karate is different from each other anyways there all different thanks
1.I like showy Flips and Handsprings
2.To fight with weapons
3.to get in shape
4.Relieve Stress
5.break cynder blocks with my fists
I know I watch too many movies But I have been dying to take some kind of martial art and I really want to learn somthing.
please Help!
Whats the Difference between Kung Fu, Hopkido, and Karate?
O.K. It sounds to me like you want Kung-Fu.
Kung-Fu is Chinese and is the oldest of them. It's got alot of flash and is very showy, they use some real cool looking weapons and it's good for winning tournaments. You will not break blocks or boards with it but you will do all the other stuff. It is not a very effective art for real life self defense.
Link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_mar...
Hapkido is a Korean art that involves locks and throwing. It has no weapons and doesn't sound like it meats any of your requirements. It could be effective in real life self defense after years of training.
Link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hapkido
Karate is a Japanese art and involves punching and kicking. This is the art where you break boards and blocks. Karate is the art that teaches how to throw a proper punch or kick using all of your body. The breaking of boards is used as an example to demonstrate this power. The weapons they use are Bo (staff), sword and Nunchaku (nun chucks). It only fits numbers 3 and 5 of your requirements. It is very effective for real life self defense.
Link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karate
Go to your local clubs and watch some classes
Good luck and HAVE FUN!
Reply:There is no short answer. All the martial art styles have much in common with each other. The things that you seek will depend more on the instructor than the style. The best approach is to visit some classes to get an idea of what is being taught, then talk with the instructor if you are interested in learning more. A good instructor will be happy to make time for you. If they don't, run away!
Don't expect to learn flips and handsprings in a traditional martial arts class. Try a gymnastics class for that.
Reply:Well, the difference is more in the school and not the style. if you want a more traditional training in the martial arts, you will fight with weapons, and relvieve stress. if you want something flashy, then you will break boards and flip around all over the place you'll get in shape with any art you take, depending on how seriously you study it. just like the guy before me said, visit some schools around your area and look at what they do. if you like what you see, try it out. But keep in mind that real martial arts are very little like what you see in the movies.
Reply:Hapkido is a korean martial arts that uses force redirection. It has lots of joint locks.
Karate is okinawan. It has lots of strikes.
Kung Fu (more appropriately "wushu") (and its chinese) is so varied and distinct that it defies easy definition. ALthough schools are very external (striking, strength based)
Just search wikipedia. I believe that they recently cleaned up the martial arts articles.
Reply:from what you described as what your looking for in a martial art, it sounds to me like wushu kung fu would be good for you.. you say you watch a lot of movies, you know jet li right? well, his primary art is wushu, he was actually a national champion in china when he was a child. wushu has become less of a martial art in sense of defense and more acrobatic in style, older masters and practioners call modern wushu, contemporary wushu, but none the less, it's a beautiful art full of high flying moves, deep stances, amazing aerial acrobatics, beautiful weapons forms and more.. http://www.ckfa-kungfu.com/wushu/
as for hapkido is an effective self-defense and as such employs joint locks, pressure points, throws, kicks, and other strikes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hapkido
karate, on the other hand is known primarily as a striking art, featuring punching, kicking, knee/elbow strikes, open handed, and breaking techniques: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karate
but from what you listed as your interests, i'd say wushu kung fu, or some form of chinese martial art might suit you best...
good luck!
Reply:If you want to do gymnastics as well as martial arts, you should try capoeira or wushu. They are very physically demanding and showy. Wushu also uses lots of weapons.
Reply:They are all spelled differently!
Reply:kung fu the moves you do reflex the image of different animal's it good for speed flips .hopkido came from akido basically it the same thing but you add kicks to it good for throwing people breaking bones coming out on top of a group of people and flipping them all at once the are good with swords and BO or staff
but the training is very intents. karate is good for kicks breaking block with fist but if i was you ill go for hopkidp its the best out of them all you learn more out of it and love the forms frome it
Reply:The best information source I know of and that I feel gives the most neutral, honest info is
http://www.atlantamartialarts.com/
Good Luck
Reply:they all kick
Reply:I have experience in Hapkido and Karate...some knowlegdge of Kung Fu so here goes:
First...Flips and Handsprings ... you are looking for XMA which is extreme martial arts and designed to be flashy but not effective in a real fight. You try and kick someone in the head and you just lost the fight... But it does look cool.
2) Weapons - all use weapons
3) All of these will get you in shape
4) all will relieve stress
5) Karate does breaks, Hapkido not really into breaking as its cousin art Tae Kwon Do is and Kung Fu does not do breaks (from what I have seen).
So, with that said...here are the basics.
Hapkido is, in layman's terms, a mix of aikido, karate, and tae kwon do. It includes defenses and strikes of karate, kicks of TKD, and joint/circular movements of aikido. There are differances, however, that is at a more detailed level. In a good school you will be required to kick, do rolls/flips (not handsprings etc but how to roll out of a lock).
A key principal of Hapkido (and Aikido) is to take the attackers energy and use it against him/her much like steven segal.
Karate is more force on force. Requires more strength training but an opponent whom is stronger is more likely to win than a weaker one. As to the physical training vs. Hapkido it really depends upon the school. I moved from NYC doing Hapkido at a great school to Vegas where I took up Kempo Karate where the school required almost no physical training (quite and found a good Hapkido school again).
Kung Fu will fall closer to Karate but a good school will also include some joint locks etc. Training again will be dependant upon the school.
Your best option is to figure out what style you like to learn first. I am cross training at this point which is a good balance. No art is better than the next as each has its strong/weak points. Try doing gymnastics and one art at a good school rather than gymnastics and an art you really like at a bad school...
Reply:well, if you want to do all those, i will recommend you something like ninjitsu, they do flips,fight with weapons, you get in shape and can be able to break stuff with your fist, even tho the last one i mentioned takes more practice than the others.
heres the thing, hapkido is more about using your opponent's attacking momentum against him (i used to practice hapkido) and its more about smooth movement making the opponent lose balance etc.
kung fu...theres different types of kung fu, from shaolin, seven stars praying mantis, to tai chi wich is a more calm style of kung fu.
same thing with karate, theres a lot of styles out there that maybe you can do all what you are looking for.
Reply:Kung Fu - Chinese
Hapkido - Korean
Karate - Japanese
All traditional martial arts. Hapkido works the best in the street.
Reply:all your requirements = kung fu
for flips, handsprings, acrobatic/gymnastic type stuff will be wushu, monkey style (5 animal form kung fu), and kung fu
fight with weapons, kung fu and the rest
relieve stress, get a punching bag and unleash your kung fu
breaking cinder blocks, kung fu
Reply:Kung fu has different meaning in animal forms hopkido is a style from Taekwondo and Karate is different from each other anyways there all different thanks
Shaolin kung fu in orange county?
Hey anyone know of a good school that isn't expensive, teaches forms, does not go easy on the students, and has some sparring?
I have visted several schools in the area "shao-lin kf" schools but their forms lack discipline, and the teachers seemed a bit odd. The wushu places don't fight, but their forms are great.. i'm not looking for karate or tae kwan do or a mix of any such thing.
Shaolin kung fu in orange county?
well, I go to OC all the time and that place has the worst places to learn martial arts. u better take wushu because its flexible btu8 look for a school thats organized, like exactly what u learn in a rank, free private lessons, culture, pride, cleanliness, and mass decorations in the place to show how they prosper, look for teachers that shoe respect, and students who dont compete over each other. Most martial arts in OC is crappy and its mostly teachers that have learned at a rec and opened a small buisness for money. look for places with links to tournament organaizations that are big or federations that are famous like National Wushu Federation because that shows that they are legit and that they have contact with them.
Reply:Welcome to the internet my friend... how may I help you?
perhaps a simple search for Kung fu in Orange county?
processing.....
http://www.yellowpages.com/sp/yellowpage...
thank you and come again!
Remember, when you surf the internet! always wear a condom on your head! Virus's are everywhere!!!
Reply:if you're an adult and not some 14 year old punk and if you have the balls- got to China, you can become a student and learn it all first hand. but they will punish you physically.
http://www.shaolin-wushu.de/en/main_fr.h...
I have visted several schools in the area "shao-lin kf" schools but their forms lack discipline, and the teachers seemed a bit odd. The wushu places don't fight, but their forms are great.. i'm not looking for karate or tae kwan do or a mix of any such thing.
Shaolin kung fu in orange county?
well, I go to OC all the time and that place has the worst places to learn martial arts. u better take wushu because its flexible btu8 look for a school thats organized, like exactly what u learn in a rank, free private lessons, culture, pride, cleanliness, and mass decorations in the place to show how they prosper, look for teachers that shoe respect, and students who dont compete over each other. Most martial arts in OC is crappy and its mostly teachers that have learned at a rec and opened a small buisness for money. look for places with links to tournament organaizations that are big or federations that are famous like National Wushu Federation because that shows that they are legit and that they have contact with them.
Reply:Welcome to the internet my friend... how may I help you?
perhaps a simple search for Kung fu in Orange county?
processing.....
http://www.yellowpages.com/sp/yellowpage...
thank you and come again!
Remember, when you surf the internet! always wear a condom on your head! Virus's are everywhere!!!
Reply:if you're an adult and not some 14 year old punk and if you have the balls- got to China, you can become a student and learn it all first hand. but they will punish you physically.
http://www.shaolin-wushu.de/en/main_fr.h...
Is the "raising fighting spirit" in guitar hero 3?
the raising fighting spirit ---- Asian Kung Fu Generation.
Is the "raising fighting spirit" in guitar hero 3?
No It is not in Guitar Hero 3. :]
Reply:no
Reply:I just got that game for Wii
Is the "raising fighting spirit" in guitar hero 3?
No It is not in Guitar Hero 3. :]
Reply:no
Reply:I just got that game for Wii
What is this kung fu movie?
whats this martial arts comedy movie? i cant remember the name all i remember is there is a chinese gang bullying people in this village. these 3 guys are fighting them, i remember one of them takes these metal rings off of a shower curtain around his arms and starts hitting people with them. then the leader of the gang shows and asks who did this? and the main character says i did...
tahts all i remember. anybody know what this movie is??
What is this kung fu movie?
kung fu hustle with stephen chow
its a great film
Reply:Hmmm...
It sounds alot like Kung Fu Hustle
Hope this helps
Night Elf Mohawk
tahts all i remember. anybody know what this movie is??
What is this kung fu movie?
kung fu hustle with stephen chow
its a great film
Reply:Hmmm...
It sounds alot like Kung Fu Hustle
Hope this helps
Night Elf Mohawk
PLEASE help me find the name of a certain kung fu movie?
im looking for a kung fu movie that is pretty old school it looks like it was made in the 70's or 80's i cant remember what it was about but all i know is that there where japanese characters who came to china to fight and no it is not shaolin challenges ninja i checked already. all i remember was the last fight where the japanese man who had long red hair and wearing black kendo uniform was fighting a chinese dude with short hair and a mustache they both fought and i think they both died im not sure but please helpp!
PLEASE help me find the name of a certain kung fu movie?
sounds like 90% of the 80's kung fu movies
Reply:twas a bruce lee flick? was there blood spurting?
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PLEASE help me find the name of a certain kung fu movie?
sounds like 90% of the 80's kung fu movies
Reply:twas a bruce lee flick? was there blood spurting?
how to grow pomegranate
How to choose a good place to learn kung fu?
Hi.
I am willing to learn Kung Fu. Since it's a long way, deals with conditioning and has do do with fighting (not only, but it does), then I am being very careful.
What should I look for? What should I avoid? What are the dangers?
For example, what does a good academy look like? How important the "lineage" is? What to expect from an academy that says they have sparring classes? What about those that don't? Also, how important and how dangerous is Chi Kung, as used in Kung Fu?
I live in Brazil (in São Paulo), and although I did look at some academies ehre, I feel like I just can't tell who's who, and which instructors are serious and which are not. There are even some who learn from one master, then change to another, and well, this is kind of confusing. I also see masters criticizing one another (even if in a subtle way), but I suppose this is "normal".
(See, I don't really care about the "style". I am mostly concerned with authenticity and safety.)
How to choose a good place to learn kung fu?
china
Reply:At tiger Shaulmans karate school hi-ya!
Reply:Kung Fu, is a lifestyle for personnel fulfillment which includes a fighting art with it.It sounds like you are searching for that rather than a aggressive fighting art.Approach the sifus or masters with this in mind and be honest with them about it.Also the best of them will wish for students like this rather than ones that only take it to only learn to fight.Go with your own personal gut feelings in this respect.Also remember, that if you go to a major commercial establishment, that is what you will get, commercial mass produced results that may push you to fast to earn your various sashes thus keeping you happy and willing to spend your money.which could cause you unnecessary injuries in the long run.seek sifus or masters out that are off the beaten path and the very best ones I found seemed like that did not want me around even though I liked them.(they later told me that they had to make sure I was sincere and was determined to keep coming back and that I did earnestly until they eventually capitulated.Good luck with your endeavor and may the powers that be, shine on your path and show you the way.
PS. various forms of mental illnesses formed via martial arts(if it was true!) only happen to people that are unstable to begin with.
As for the Iron Palm training.To do it properly,will take you a little over a year to do safely, so you don't wind up with a paralyzed hand that looks like cow horn.Also it includes a handed down recipe for a liniment called DI DAT JOW, the spelling varies as well as the recipes from place to place but this fowl smelling stuff is necessary to prevent this damage and maintain your hands integrity.If they do not use this DO NOT use them! Plus Iron Palm is a supplement to a kung fu system,not a stand alone system.(such as Dim Mak).
Reply:Any Martial Art you study will have a degree of danger to it, the injury factor will always be there, especially if you don't perform the techniques you'll learn properly.
A good Martial Arts school should have a clean and friendly atmosphere. and instructors that want to help you to become the best Martial Artist you can be. and they shouldn't hassle you about contracts and such.
There isn't a "Best fit" type of Martial Art for people with a certain height, weight, body type, or personality, etc. Nor is there a such thing as a "best Martial Art" because they all have their own strengths and weaknesses
Any Martial Art you study is going to help you learn better balance, better coordination, speed in your technique, and power in your techniques; but these are attributes that are products of GOOD and PROPER training.
all you need to do dude is find out what schools are available to you, and choose at least three that interest you the most, watch a couple of their classes to see if you want to take up some trial classes (up to a weeks worth without being hassled to sign a contract).
If you like the school, then enroll in it. Any Martial Art is going to show you how to utilize your body by learning self defense.
You just need to find a Martial Arts School that will provide a safe environment for you and your parents agree on it. You are right about studying a particular discipline. because it DOESN'T MATTER because there is NO discipline that is better than another.
What matters is that you feel comfortable (and like the classes) in the classes and you feel comfortable that the instructor can properly teach you self defense and not have the "smoke and mirrors" aspect. and that the instructor likes to do it more for the teaching aspect rather than the "making money" which it is a business to make money but it should not be the only reason for teaching the discipline.
just watch out for school's that're a "McDojo's" or "belt factory" type of school.
these schools usually do a lot of boasting about how soon their students make their 1st degree black belts (like having several "young black belts" that're usually 9 or 10 yr old kids, which should be a rare thing to see unless the child started learning the discipline when they were 4 yrs old), and often boast about students making their black belts in about a year’s time (which it should be up to 5 years or better) which often means that they have a high student turnout rate.
They'll also often try to get you to commit to a contract, usually one that's 6 months long or more or try to get you to pay down a large sum of money for that kind of time period. which is a BIG red flag
These schools will also brag about how many tournaments their students have entered and placed in or won a trophy. While Tournaments are good to go to and test your own skills as a point sparring contestant, but competitions are the LEAST important aspect to concern yourself with in Martial Arts.
Long story short, these schools will basically "give" you your belt ranks every few months as long as you are paying the outrageous fees per month, and you won't really learn self defense.
there's always going to be schools that think their Martial Art is the best, but that's been going on for hundreds of years and it's no different today. Unfortunately it will continue, until these people realize the discipline they study isn't better than any other.
"lineage" shouldn't be a big concern unless the instructors can't tell you about the history of the discipline and who they learned it from or what affiliation the school has with a national organization.
Sparring should be a basic and integral part of your training, because it should help you with your timing and use of the techniques you learn.
Reply:Be very interested in the style you will be studying. Identify which lineage it is from and read about it. If you do find this school has reference to the lineage, and you want to study, check out a class. Then talk to the Sifu. If you are sincere he may let you study with him. A good Sifu will not teach just anyone.
lr
the Qi Gung mental disorder myth is just a myth...
http://www.pacificwingchunassociation.co...
Reply:I am a karate instructor of traditional chito ryu karate. If you are looking for a school here are some suggestions
Most good schools will let you watch a class and try one out befoe you decide to join
A good school is not measured by trphies but by the demeanor of its students and its instructors
A good school will not have you sparring(fighting) until you are well versed in the basics and moving into the intermediate levels
A good school has a diverse student base meaning that there all all different types of people there
Listen when the instructor teaches Does he seem full of himself
Do the students show a respect of learning not respect out of fear
I find that most schools that are tournament oriented have a different level of standard being that they are lower- I am sorry to have to say this and it is not true of all schools but if a school emphasizes on winning tournaments by point scoring the level of quality of what they learn seems to be lower
If you feel comfortable and welcome in the dojo it is probably a good choice for you but make sure you check out as many as you can before you decide
Reply:After you have checked the authenticity or the art, If you are able, watch the seniors class (these are the ones that will probably teach you in the beginning.). The seniors set the tone of the school. The seniors should be able to answer any questions you have regarding the art or should have the humility to say "I don't know, let me find out the answer for you." If there is camaraderie in the senior class and the art represents the lineage you are looking for, then you might want to add this school to your good list.
Reply:the most direct linage is good...those teachers should know a lot and be authentic...I'd say the best schools are the ones that haven't (or won't) tun into a buisness, the schools that won't force you to be under a contract. Try one out, and if you don't like it, then leave. Qigong is supposed to help your health (at least as used in Tai Chi). I am in both Kung Fu and Tai Chi and have swithched schools once. Don't be afraid to leave a school that doesn't fit you.
lilycare
I am willing to learn Kung Fu. Since it's a long way, deals with conditioning and has do do with fighting (not only, but it does), then I am being very careful.
What should I look for? What should I avoid? What are the dangers?
For example, what does a good academy look like? How important the "lineage" is? What to expect from an academy that says they have sparring classes? What about those that don't? Also, how important and how dangerous is Chi Kung, as used in Kung Fu?
I live in Brazil (in São Paulo), and although I did look at some academies ehre, I feel like I just can't tell who's who, and which instructors are serious and which are not. There are even some who learn from one master, then change to another, and well, this is kind of confusing. I also see masters criticizing one another (even if in a subtle way), but I suppose this is "normal".
(See, I don't really care about the "style". I am mostly concerned with authenticity and safety.)
How to choose a good place to learn kung fu?
china
Reply:At tiger Shaulmans karate school hi-ya!
Reply:Kung Fu, is a lifestyle for personnel fulfillment which includes a fighting art with it.It sounds like you are searching for that rather than a aggressive fighting art.Approach the sifus or masters with this in mind and be honest with them about it.Also the best of them will wish for students like this rather than ones that only take it to only learn to fight.Go with your own personal gut feelings in this respect.Also remember, that if you go to a major commercial establishment, that is what you will get, commercial mass produced results that may push you to fast to earn your various sashes thus keeping you happy and willing to spend your money.which could cause you unnecessary injuries in the long run.seek sifus or masters out that are off the beaten path and the very best ones I found seemed like that did not want me around even though I liked them.(they later told me that they had to make sure I was sincere and was determined to keep coming back and that I did earnestly until they eventually capitulated.Good luck with your endeavor and may the powers that be, shine on your path and show you the way.
PS. various forms of mental illnesses formed via martial arts(if it was true!) only happen to people that are unstable to begin with.
As for the Iron Palm training.To do it properly,will take you a little over a year to do safely, so you don't wind up with a paralyzed hand that looks like cow horn.Also it includes a handed down recipe for a liniment called DI DAT JOW, the spelling varies as well as the recipes from place to place but this fowl smelling stuff is necessary to prevent this damage and maintain your hands integrity.If they do not use this DO NOT use them! Plus Iron Palm is a supplement to a kung fu system,not a stand alone system.(such as Dim Mak).
Reply:Any Martial Art you study will have a degree of danger to it, the injury factor will always be there, especially if you don't perform the techniques you'll learn properly.
A good Martial Arts school should have a clean and friendly atmosphere. and instructors that want to help you to become the best Martial Artist you can be. and they shouldn't hassle you about contracts and such.
There isn't a "Best fit" type of Martial Art for people with a certain height, weight, body type, or personality, etc. Nor is there a such thing as a "best Martial Art" because they all have their own strengths and weaknesses
Any Martial Art you study is going to help you learn better balance, better coordination, speed in your technique, and power in your techniques; but these are attributes that are products of GOOD and PROPER training.
all you need to do dude is find out what schools are available to you, and choose at least three that interest you the most, watch a couple of their classes to see if you want to take up some trial classes (up to a weeks worth without being hassled to sign a contract).
If you like the school, then enroll in it. Any Martial Art is going to show you how to utilize your body by learning self defense.
You just need to find a Martial Arts School that will provide a safe environment for you and your parents agree on it. You are right about studying a particular discipline. because it DOESN'T MATTER because there is NO discipline that is better than another.
What matters is that you feel comfortable (and like the classes) in the classes and you feel comfortable that the instructor can properly teach you self defense and not have the "smoke and mirrors" aspect. and that the instructor likes to do it more for the teaching aspect rather than the "making money" which it is a business to make money but it should not be the only reason for teaching the discipline.
just watch out for school's that're a "McDojo's" or "belt factory" type of school.
these schools usually do a lot of boasting about how soon their students make their 1st degree black belts (like having several "young black belts" that're usually 9 or 10 yr old kids, which should be a rare thing to see unless the child started learning the discipline when they were 4 yrs old), and often boast about students making their black belts in about a year’s time (which it should be up to 5 years or better) which often means that they have a high student turnout rate.
They'll also often try to get you to commit to a contract, usually one that's 6 months long or more or try to get you to pay down a large sum of money for that kind of time period. which is a BIG red flag
These schools will also brag about how many tournaments their students have entered and placed in or won a trophy. While Tournaments are good to go to and test your own skills as a point sparring contestant, but competitions are the LEAST important aspect to concern yourself with in Martial Arts.
Long story short, these schools will basically "give" you your belt ranks every few months as long as you are paying the outrageous fees per month, and you won't really learn self defense.
there's always going to be schools that think their Martial Art is the best, but that's been going on for hundreds of years and it's no different today. Unfortunately it will continue, until these people realize the discipline they study isn't better than any other.
"lineage" shouldn't be a big concern unless the instructors can't tell you about the history of the discipline and who they learned it from or what affiliation the school has with a national organization.
Sparring should be a basic and integral part of your training, because it should help you with your timing and use of the techniques you learn.
Reply:Be very interested in the style you will be studying. Identify which lineage it is from and read about it. If you do find this school has reference to the lineage, and you want to study, check out a class. Then talk to the Sifu. If you are sincere he may let you study with him. A good Sifu will not teach just anyone.
lr
the Qi Gung mental disorder myth is just a myth...
http://www.pacificwingchunassociation.co...
Reply:I am a karate instructor of traditional chito ryu karate. If you are looking for a school here are some suggestions
Most good schools will let you watch a class and try one out befoe you decide to join
A good school is not measured by trphies but by the demeanor of its students and its instructors
A good school will not have you sparring(fighting) until you are well versed in the basics and moving into the intermediate levels
A good school has a diverse student base meaning that there all all different types of people there
Listen when the instructor teaches Does he seem full of himself
Do the students show a respect of learning not respect out of fear
I find that most schools that are tournament oriented have a different level of standard being that they are lower- I am sorry to have to say this and it is not true of all schools but if a school emphasizes on winning tournaments by point scoring the level of quality of what they learn seems to be lower
If you feel comfortable and welcome in the dojo it is probably a good choice for you but make sure you check out as many as you can before you decide
Reply:After you have checked the authenticity or the art, If you are able, watch the seniors class (these are the ones that will probably teach you in the beginning.). The seniors set the tone of the school. The seniors should be able to answer any questions you have regarding the art or should have the humility to say "I don't know, let me find out the answer for you." If there is camaraderie in the senior class and the art represents the lineage you are looking for, then you might want to add this school to your good list.
Reply:the most direct linage is good...those teachers should know a lot and be authentic...I'd say the best schools are the ones that haven't (or won't) tun into a buisness, the schools that won't force you to be under a contract. Try one out, and if you don't like it, then leave. Qigong is supposed to help your health (at least as used in Tai Chi). I am in both Kung Fu and Tai Chi and have swithched schools once. Don't be afraid to leave a school that doesn't fit you.
lilycare
San Soo kung fu?
I have been training in San Soo kung fu for quite a while.
I know that it is a style, but i dont consider it beein a style.
For me it is the best/natural way to fight.
All the moves and technique has a proper way to do it, using the strenghts and weaknesees of the human body, proper hip/body movement etc. It is a pure thinking art, there is also a little bit of wing chun in it, but it has more.
It is not limited at all.
What I am about to say will offend alot of people, and they will start posting insults, but i dont care, to me this art is THE Best art *at least for stand up fighting* that there is around, there is nothing missing to this art.
I wish that people would stop thinking that beeing able to break 10 briks or kick super high is what makes you a good martial artist, that is why people lacks alot of technique and smarts when fighting.
If there is San Soo practicioners viewing this, do you agree with this statement?
San Soo kung fu?
Where do you get that being able to break 10 bricks or kick super high is what most people think makes a good martial artist and that "that is why people lacks alot of technique and smarts when fighting"? It seems to me that you have a good lot more presuppositions than you think and what you think of your martial art is not unique.
Reply:It depends on what you are refering to when you say that it is "the best/natural way to fight". If you are talking about from a Martial Arts perspective I would have to argue that no martial arts is better than the next.
If you are talking about for a street altercation I would have to question how practical San Soo Kung Fu is for the streets since I do not know much about San Soo Kung Fu.
How good is San Soo when involved in a self-defense situation?
Reply:If you consider your style to be the BEST, then lucky for you that you're doing it ;-)
You'll tend to find that everyone thinks that their own style is the best, and it is... Whatever you have trained the most in is going to work the best for you.
The only thing that really concerns me is that you say it is the best for stand up fighting, implying that it is no good at grappling range. I submit to you that if you're style can not counter a grappler on the ground then it is incomplete or you need to look closer at your techniques to figure out how to apply them on the ground. All good systems will teach ground fighting it's not a new thing. I train Wing Chun Kung Fu and it has ground fighting in it, both in the traditional sense where one uses kicks to keep the opponent at bay and regain your feet and a more anti wrestling thing where you use your chi sao skills which are totally transferrable to the ground and work quite well.
Reply:I do not practice san soo but I have watched its practitioners.
To me it seems to be a very practical art, without all the flashy moves of other kung fu styles. I've watched the san soo matches also, I can say they are very exciting. It reminds me of muay thai, except that it has better hand techniques, in my opinion.
Reply:lol Arrogance. There is no one best martial art. Mine is not better than yours, and yours isn't better from that guy's style down the street.
And you'll notice I never put San Soo down once.
From what I've seen of San Soo it looks good, but I'm just wondering where you got the thinking about the 10 bricks and kicking really high?
But no matter, you have much to learn in humility. Thanks for the 2 points.
Reply:Everyone thinks there martial art is the best. I think mine is!
Reply:What's interesting is that the school closest to me focus more on grappling then anything else. It is a San Soo Kung Fu school but they enter grappling tournaments and their fighters are very good on the ground. The instructor from what I'm told actually was trained in Jujitsu then earned his black belt in San soo Kung Fu. I believe it is a style that uses all things.
Sounds really cool from what I've heard.
Oh one last thing I don't buy into people trying to say all styles are equal. There is a best way to punch and either a style teaches it or not. If a style doesn't teach the best way to do soemething it isn't the best. I don't know enough about San Soo to say if they teach the best method but there is a best method out there.
Reply:Hmmm, I would spar you to see how versital this is and how good it works. If it works better than it just works better. that's life. But, never really know until you try.
I know that it is a style, but i dont consider it beein a style.
For me it is the best/natural way to fight.
All the moves and technique has a proper way to do it, using the strenghts and weaknesees of the human body, proper hip/body movement etc. It is a pure thinking art, there is also a little bit of wing chun in it, but it has more.
It is not limited at all.
What I am about to say will offend alot of people, and they will start posting insults, but i dont care, to me this art is THE Best art *at least for stand up fighting* that there is around, there is nothing missing to this art.
I wish that people would stop thinking that beeing able to break 10 briks or kick super high is what makes you a good martial artist, that is why people lacks alot of technique and smarts when fighting.
If there is San Soo practicioners viewing this, do you agree with this statement?
San Soo kung fu?
Where do you get that being able to break 10 bricks or kick super high is what most people think makes a good martial artist and that "that is why people lacks alot of technique and smarts when fighting"? It seems to me that you have a good lot more presuppositions than you think and what you think of your martial art is not unique.
Reply:It depends on what you are refering to when you say that it is "the best/natural way to fight". If you are talking about from a Martial Arts perspective I would have to argue that no martial arts is better than the next.
If you are talking about for a street altercation I would have to question how practical San Soo Kung Fu is for the streets since I do not know much about San Soo Kung Fu.
How good is San Soo when involved in a self-defense situation?
Reply:If you consider your style to be the BEST, then lucky for you that you're doing it ;-)
You'll tend to find that everyone thinks that their own style is the best, and it is... Whatever you have trained the most in is going to work the best for you.
The only thing that really concerns me is that you say it is the best for stand up fighting, implying that it is no good at grappling range. I submit to you that if you're style can not counter a grappler on the ground then it is incomplete or you need to look closer at your techniques to figure out how to apply them on the ground. All good systems will teach ground fighting it's not a new thing. I train Wing Chun Kung Fu and it has ground fighting in it, both in the traditional sense where one uses kicks to keep the opponent at bay and regain your feet and a more anti wrestling thing where you use your chi sao skills which are totally transferrable to the ground and work quite well.
Reply:I do not practice san soo but I have watched its practitioners.
To me it seems to be a very practical art, without all the flashy moves of other kung fu styles. I've watched the san soo matches also, I can say they are very exciting. It reminds me of muay thai, except that it has better hand techniques, in my opinion.
Reply:lol Arrogance. There is no one best martial art. Mine is not better than yours, and yours isn't better from that guy's style down the street.
And you'll notice I never put San Soo down once.
From what I've seen of San Soo it looks good, but I'm just wondering where you got the thinking about the 10 bricks and kicking really high?
But no matter, you have much to learn in humility. Thanks for the 2 points.
Reply:Everyone thinks there martial art is the best. I think mine is!
Reply:What's interesting is that the school closest to me focus more on grappling then anything else. It is a San Soo Kung Fu school but they enter grappling tournaments and their fighters are very good on the ground. The instructor from what I'm told actually was trained in Jujitsu then earned his black belt in San soo Kung Fu. I believe it is a style that uses all things.
Sounds really cool from what I've heard.
Oh one last thing I don't buy into people trying to say all styles are equal. There is a best way to punch and either a style teaches it or not. If a style doesn't teach the best way to do soemething it isn't the best. I don't know enough about San Soo to say if they teach the best method but there is a best method out there.
Reply:Hmmm, I would spar you to see how versital this is and how good it works. If it works better than it just works better. that's life. But, never really know until you try.
A kung fu master is going to fight a 7 foot black bear that has lost an arm to another bear who wins?
Chuck Norris wins, then eats the bear after roasting it with his heat vision...
then Bruce Lee comes in and kicks the crap out of everyone
A kung fu master is going to fight a 7 foot black bear that has lost an arm to another bear who wins?
Chuck Norris
Reply:the bear.
Reply:This is a stupid question, and despite the saying "there are no such things as stupid questions," you're stupid for asking it.
Reply:The Kung Fu master. Why? Because there are a lot of Kung Fu styles out there and unfortunately for the bear, this Kung Fu Master happens to be a master of the art of spear fighting : P
Reply:hopefully the bear will pass out with heavy blood loss and preferably die meanwhile master should triple somersault into a tree if possible
then Bruce Lee comes in and kicks the crap out of everyone
A kung fu master is going to fight a 7 foot black bear that has lost an arm to another bear who wins?
Chuck Norris
Reply:the bear.
Reply:This is a stupid question, and despite the saying "there are no such things as stupid questions," you're stupid for asking it.
Reply:The Kung Fu master. Why? Because there are a lot of Kung Fu styles out there and unfortunately for the bear, this Kung Fu Master happens to be a master of the art of spear fighting : P
Reply:hopefully the bear will pass out with heavy blood loss and preferably die meanwhile master should triple somersault into a tree if possible
Shafiq - Kung Fu in tournament application?
Can someone please tell me what style hes using?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0CIy9ZZE...
This guy actually keeps his form and stance when he fights. Amazing stuff. Using Kung Fu like it was meant to be used back then.
What style is it though? Anyone know? It looks reminiscent of what a Shaolin Monk would be firing out.
Shafiq - Kung Fu in tournament application?
Antone's guess would be valid. The northern Shaolin styles are a good guess. It could be Sanda or SanShou which basically Chinese ring sport for Kung Fu that includes everything through take downs but no ground fighting. I would like to know what his training and fighting style are he is awesome.
Reply:I am pretty sure that the red dude is using ninjitsu, because of how balanced he is, something that ninjas are known for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0CIy9ZZE...
This guy actually keeps his form and stance when he fights. Amazing stuff. Using Kung Fu like it was meant to be used back then.
What style is it though? Anyone know? It looks reminiscent of what a Shaolin Monk would be firing out.
Shafiq - Kung Fu in tournament application?
Antone's guess would be valid. The northern Shaolin styles are a good guess. It could be Sanda or SanShou which basically Chinese ring sport for Kung Fu that includes everything through take downs but no ground fighting. I would like to know what his training and fighting style are he is awesome.
Reply:I am pretty sure that the red dude is using ninjitsu, because of how balanced he is, something that ninjas are known for.
Should I begin doubting Kung Fu? (the combat styles)?
Its been famous for ages but I just can't seem to find any evidence where Kung Fu has really shined in all its glory that its hyped up to be. The only art that redeems itself for me is Wing Chun, which is very effective in a fight, especially punches down the centerline in a straightline.
But what about Choy Li Fut? Praying Mantis? Eagle style? Five Animals?
I've been such a Kung Fu addict (not the movie type) for so long that I find it frustrating how a simple search of Muay Thai on YouTube can produce dozens of amazing fight videos but a Kung Fu search has only a few real fight scenes. More of them loosing then winning too.
Whats the deal, Kung Fu?
Should I begin doubting Kung Fu? (the combat styles)?
It is more than just fighting it is a way of life for most that do it outside the USA in particular. Same goes for most styles. They live and eat it day after day.
Shaolin is good, Hungar I trained in was good. Kenpo which is Okinawan but with heavy Chinese roots.
Kung fu is still a great style and way of life. It is just not for all.
ever watch Fearless with Jet Li? sure it was Wing Chun but he beat all, even the Japanese. So I think Kung Fu is still a great art, just finding the right teacher that matters.
Reply:Think of it like as Kung Fu was the ancestor style of combat. Now, the modern martial arts has surpassed Kung Fu by far. Honestly, I think boxing is by far the most effective style.
The movies has exaggerated the power of Kung Fu. However, Shaolin monk's kung fu is not to be underestimated. They will still whoop your **** with ease if you are not careful.
Reply:Kung Fu is a beautiful martial art which requires great flexibility, athleticism, and artistry. It has also been greatly hyped by Hollywood. The reality is Kung Fu is not practical when it comes to street fighting or MMA. It does not teach ground fighting which is where 90% of fights end up. Kung Fu should not be shunned because it has great historical significance and artistry but for god sake, don't expect it to carry you in a street fight or an MMA cage.
Reply:what exactly is kung fu addict? its other you train or you dont. YouTube is not the source of info and couldnt be taken as such. kung fu is over 3000 years old if you are an addict you would understand that it speaks for itself.i would change your word 'famous' to 'efficient'. i couldnt imagine my instructor placing a video on YouTube to boast like many martial arts do, because kung fu its not just style or fight but a moral state, lifestile and serenity. Good luck, addict
Reply:I would encourage you to look up Shao-lin Kung-fu. It had Mantas, Eagle, ad Five Animals Pa-Kua. It also has Dragon, Snake, Black Tiger, and many other various styles and forms.
I take Shao-lin. I believe it is a very fine example of kung-fu. Our Grandmaster, Grandmaster Sin Kwang The', is one of the coolest people I have ever met.
Shao-lin is also very effective in self defense. It uses a lot of pressure points, knock out from pressure points and joint locks. It could carry you into a MMA ring if you have trained with other martial arts, hence the name mixed martial arts because it not just one martial art its several being mixed together.
Shao-lin has an awesome history. Go look it up and read about it.
I also agree with Fresh. Kung-fu is a way of lifestyle.
Reply:When the Vale Tudo and UFC tournaments first started they sought to answer the question as to which single martial art is superior. The answer? None.
While certain styles prevailed over others (some even on a consistent basis) what has been proven is that no one martial art exclusively wins all the time. What we have found out is that certain aspects of certain martial arts, when combined together, have the most practical application. In effect there has become a new martial art named MMA. With jiu-jitsu ground game, Judo throws, Muay Thai kicks and elbows, boxing strikes, and more, all combined to make an effective and devastating martial art.
Kung-Fu is an incredible art form and fighting form, and yes there are practical applications of plenty of moves taught in Kung-Fu, do not view it simply as a be-all-end-all. Learn it, use what you can and adapt. In the end you probably will never say, "One time I was in this kung-fu fight..." You will say, "I was in a fight once..." and that is the moral of the story. Become a better fighter by studying all forms of fighting.
Good luck, chin down and keep your guard up.
Reply:There is a split in the Kung Fu world between southern styles and northern styles. If you think Wing Chun is effective, note it's a southern style, and check out some other Southern Styles like Hung Gar, or White Crane. (off of which Karate developed) I tend to think the Southern styles are more effective, especially in their training techniques, and the NOrthern styles are more showy.
Reply:Firstly, Kung Fu is not a martial art. The term means "level of achievement".
You are referring to Chinese martial arts Fist styles, or Kuen.
Whether Shaolin or secular, they are all Chinese Boxing or methods.
The problem is, and this is from one of my teachers, who is Chinese, is that the Chinese don't really teach non-Chinese correctly nor completely.
And now it's even worst because it is now considered a sport.
If you learn the techniques but don't learn the hidden meanings of the movements... what they mean, how they are used against an attack, you are wasting your money.
My teacher, was a member of the Iron Guard and has been doing martial arts for 60 years. He calls it as it is. And I believe him.
And he teaches his art without holding back anything.
You don't have doubts in the art, just in the lack of it.
Reply:China has two great schools of martial arts. Shaolin (Buddhist) in the north and Wudang (Daoist) in the south. Martial art is the Yang energy and soft Qigong (Healing) is the Yin. If you are losing interest after such dedication it is most likely you have either reached full Yang and flipping into Yin or are not balancing the Yang energy with cultivation of Yin. Each set or form works the energy in an individual way to achieve a specific result. Sounds like time to reassess where you are in your life Grasshopper. You do need to understand both the culture and philosophies of China to be able to understand the depth.
Reply:I love Kung Fu - I find it to be very effective. I am taking a sojourn into Tang Soo Do right now --- after starting there, I was able to back up Dan's including masters. Maybe it is just me. They now nicknamed me "The Ferocious One" and ask me to represent them in tournaments.
My fighting style is Kung Fu though - although I am integrating things I am learning from them as any good martial artist should do -- in my opinion.
Reply:Yes. No. Find out for yourself.
Reply:Kung Fu is as explained simply good work. But as far as well being efficient, well did you know that most folks will never fight in their life. That is most folks whom participate in Martial Arts of any kind.
The concept to alot is safety not sport fighting. Now sport fighting has it's place, but realize in America the Baby Boomers and such are now in their 40's and 50's. They would rather love and watch the sport than get pummeled every day.
So now for styles that work well, lets look at history. Kung Fu or Chinese styles are equal to both Roman and Greece in longevity. They have a better traced history as for styles though
It is not superior to none, nor less than. It wasn't developed with others destruction in mind. It was designed for self discovery. One of the rewards is self defense, as is great health, peace, and an understanding of our weaknesses and strengths .
This is all a part of learning to win. Many kung fu styles will produce todays winners. Winners in life. What can be better?
Reply:Check on youtube for Sanda, San Shou or Shuai jiao. Those are all forms of Kung-Fu that focus on combat.
I also agree with MrSlappy. It really comes down to "Become a better fighter by studying all forms of fighting". Also being a better fighter requires you to practice fighting, not 3 hours per class of forms/kata (there is space for it but some schools have a unnecessary focus on them).
To me it seems like the creation and popularity of MMA is really just a modern form of Pankration.
But what about Choy Li Fut? Praying Mantis? Eagle style? Five Animals?
I've been such a Kung Fu addict (not the movie type) for so long that I find it frustrating how a simple search of Muay Thai on YouTube can produce dozens of amazing fight videos but a Kung Fu search has only a few real fight scenes. More of them loosing then winning too.
Whats the deal, Kung Fu?
Should I begin doubting Kung Fu? (the combat styles)?
It is more than just fighting it is a way of life for most that do it outside the USA in particular. Same goes for most styles. They live and eat it day after day.
Shaolin is good, Hungar I trained in was good. Kenpo which is Okinawan but with heavy Chinese roots.
Kung fu is still a great style and way of life. It is just not for all.
ever watch Fearless with Jet Li? sure it was Wing Chun but he beat all, even the Japanese. So I think Kung Fu is still a great art, just finding the right teacher that matters.
Reply:Think of it like as Kung Fu was the ancestor style of combat. Now, the modern martial arts has surpassed Kung Fu by far. Honestly, I think boxing is by far the most effective style.
The movies has exaggerated the power of Kung Fu. However, Shaolin monk's kung fu is not to be underestimated. They will still whoop your **** with ease if you are not careful.
Reply:Kung Fu is a beautiful martial art which requires great flexibility, athleticism, and artistry. It has also been greatly hyped by Hollywood. The reality is Kung Fu is not practical when it comes to street fighting or MMA. It does not teach ground fighting which is where 90% of fights end up. Kung Fu should not be shunned because it has great historical significance and artistry but for god sake, don't expect it to carry you in a street fight or an MMA cage.
Reply:what exactly is kung fu addict? its other you train or you dont. YouTube is not the source of info and couldnt be taken as such. kung fu is over 3000 years old if you are an addict you would understand that it speaks for itself.i would change your word 'famous' to 'efficient'. i couldnt imagine my instructor placing a video on YouTube to boast like many martial arts do, because kung fu its not just style or fight but a moral state, lifestile and serenity. Good luck, addict
Reply:I would encourage you to look up Shao-lin Kung-fu. It had Mantas, Eagle, ad Five Animals Pa-Kua. It also has Dragon, Snake, Black Tiger, and many other various styles and forms.
I take Shao-lin. I believe it is a very fine example of kung-fu. Our Grandmaster, Grandmaster Sin Kwang The', is one of the coolest people I have ever met.
Shao-lin is also very effective in self defense. It uses a lot of pressure points, knock out from pressure points and joint locks. It could carry you into a MMA ring if you have trained with other martial arts, hence the name mixed martial arts because it not just one martial art its several being mixed together.
Shao-lin has an awesome history. Go look it up and read about it.
I also agree with Fresh. Kung-fu is a way of lifestyle.
Reply:When the Vale Tudo and UFC tournaments first started they sought to answer the question as to which single martial art is superior. The answer? None.
While certain styles prevailed over others (some even on a consistent basis) what has been proven is that no one martial art exclusively wins all the time. What we have found out is that certain aspects of certain martial arts, when combined together, have the most practical application. In effect there has become a new martial art named MMA. With jiu-jitsu ground game, Judo throws, Muay Thai kicks and elbows, boxing strikes, and more, all combined to make an effective and devastating martial art.
Kung-Fu is an incredible art form and fighting form, and yes there are practical applications of plenty of moves taught in Kung-Fu, do not view it simply as a be-all-end-all. Learn it, use what you can and adapt. In the end you probably will never say, "One time I was in this kung-fu fight..." You will say, "I was in a fight once..." and that is the moral of the story. Become a better fighter by studying all forms of fighting.
Good luck, chin down and keep your guard up.
Reply:There is a split in the Kung Fu world between southern styles and northern styles. If you think Wing Chun is effective, note it's a southern style, and check out some other Southern Styles like Hung Gar, or White Crane. (off of which Karate developed) I tend to think the Southern styles are more effective, especially in their training techniques, and the NOrthern styles are more showy.
Reply:Firstly, Kung Fu is not a martial art. The term means "level of achievement".
You are referring to Chinese martial arts Fist styles, or Kuen.
Whether Shaolin or secular, they are all Chinese Boxing or methods.
The problem is, and this is from one of my teachers, who is Chinese, is that the Chinese don't really teach non-Chinese correctly nor completely.
And now it's even worst because it is now considered a sport.
If you learn the techniques but don't learn the hidden meanings of the movements... what they mean, how they are used against an attack, you are wasting your money.
My teacher, was a member of the Iron Guard and has been doing martial arts for 60 years. He calls it as it is. And I believe him.
And he teaches his art without holding back anything.
You don't have doubts in the art, just in the lack of it.
Reply:China has two great schools of martial arts. Shaolin (Buddhist) in the north and Wudang (Daoist) in the south. Martial art is the Yang energy and soft Qigong (Healing) is the Yin. If you are losing interest after such dedication it is most likely you have either reached full Yang and flipping into Yin or are not balancing the Yang energy with cultivation of Yin. Each set or form works the energy in an individual way to achieve a specific result. Sounds like time to reassess where you are in your life Grasshopper. You do need to understand both the culture and philosophies of China to be able to understand the depth.
Reply:I love Kung Fu - I find it to be very effective. I am taking a sojourn into Tang Soo Do right now --- after starting there, I was able to back up Dan's including masters. Maybe it is just me. They now nicknamed me "The Ferocious One" and ask me to represent them in tournaments.
My fighting style is Kung Fu though - although I am integrating things I am learning from them as any good martial artist should do -- in my opinion.
Reply:Yes. No. Find out for yourself.
Reply:Kung Fu is as explained simply good work. But as far as well being efficient, well did you know that most folks will never fight in their life. That is most folks whom participate in Martial Arts of any kind.
The concept to alot is safety not sport fighting. Now sport fighting has it's place, but realize in America the Baby Boomers and such are now in their 40's and 50's. They would rather love and watch the sport than get pummeled every day.
So now for styles that work well, lets look at history. Kung Fu or Chinese styles are equal to both Roman and Greece in longevity. They have a better traced history as for styles though
It is not superior to none, nor less than. It wasn't developed with others destruction in mind. It was designed for self discovery. One of the rewards is self defense, as is great health, peace, and an understanding of our weaknesses and strengths .
This is all a part of learning to win. Many kung fu styles will produce todays winners. Winners in life. What can be better?
Reply:Check on youtube for Sanda, San Shou or Shuai jiao. Those are all forms of Kung-Fu that focus on combat.
I also agree with MrSlappy. It really comes down to "Become a better fighter by studying all forms of fighting". Also being a better fighter requires you to practice fighting, not 3 hours per class of forms/kata (there is space for it but some schools have a unnecessary focus on them).
To me it seems like the creation and popularity of MMA is really just a modern form of Pankration.
Japanese / Kung Fu type show on MTV?
It was a show on MTV a few years ago and it was with actual people, it wasn't a cartoon. I don't remember if it was just a movie or if it was a series. I just remember I really liked the hairstyle of one of the girls on the show. There were some fighting scenes I think, Kung Fu style... lol. I don't know if this description will help at all... but I just want to know the name of the show. Thankssss!
Japanese / Kung Fu type show on MTV?
i remember what ur talking about...but i don't remember any details..i think it was a movie...check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pro...
flowers funeral
Japanese / Kung Fu type show on MTV?
i remember what ur talking about...but i don't remember any details..i think it was a movie...check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pro...
flowers funeral
What were the chinese shoes on the kung fu episode of Fight Quest called?
doug said they were the air jordan's over there...
What were the chinese shoes on the kung fu episode of Fight Quest called?
they are feiyue and they're really cheap!
http://www.martialartsmart.net/45353l.ht...
What were the chinese shoes on the kung fu episode of Fight Quest called?
they are feiyue and they're really cheap!
http://www.martialartsmart.net/45353l.ht...
Acid Zebra and Gazoo in a kung-fu theology ninja fight. Who wins?
LOL
Acid Zebra and Gazoo in a kung-fu theology ninja fight. Who wins?
I win by default! yay! Report It
Reply:Acid Zebra trips and takes a header when his coke bottle glasses fall off during mid-chop.
Reply:Awesome
Reply:Man... no fighting. Pacifism, dude. Just chill out!
Reply:I'm backing my man Acid Zebra. (He has the better avatar too :P )
Acid Zebra and Gazoo in a kung-fu theology ninja fight. Who wins?
I win by default! yay! Report It
Reply:Acid Zebra trips and takes a header when his coke bottle glasses fall off during mid-chop.
Reply:Awesome
Reply:Man... no fighting. Pacifism, dude. Just chill out!
Reply:I'm backing my man Acid Zebra. (He has the better avatar too :P )
Thai boxing or kung fu in a fight?
which would be more effective in a severe fight?
Thai boxing or kung fu in a fight?
It depends on the style of Kung Fu, and how hard each person trained. A champion Muay Thai boxer would kill your average civil-self-defense trained Kung Fu man. However, with hard training Kung Fu can be more effective.
Reply:kung fu it hits the critical points lots and is nice and fast
Reply:Well the better fighter would win....
Given equal talents - however you would qualify that - the thai guy would spank Mr. Kung Fu's butt.
Reply:Dim Mak in a street fight..... oh man.
Reply:generally thai boxing is far better preparation for pure combat.
Thai boxing or kung fu in a fight?
It depends on the style of Kung Fu, and how hard each person trained. A champion Muay Thai boxer would kill your average civil-self-defense trained Kung Fu man. However, with hard training Kung Fu can be more effective.
Reply:kung fu it hits the critical points lots and is nice and fast
Reply:Well the better fighter would win....
Given equal talents - however you would qualify that - the thai guy would spank Mr. Kung Fu's butt.
Reply:Dim Mak in a street fight..... oh man.
Reply:generally thai boxing is far better preparation for pure combat.
Do you Believe that you can efficiently FIGHT, do Kung-fu, do Gun battles&etc.,while wearing your?
single-(or Double)breasted suit,Dress tie and Dress shoes,with no problem at all?
Do you Believe that you can efficiently FIGHT, do Kung-fu, do Gun battles%26amp;etc.,while wearing your?
of course !
Reply:Yeah! Cus I'm a killer lethal pink ninja!! Stilettos are great throwing stars/spikes you know!
But shhh don't tell anyone my ninja identity!
Reply:Well enough. I always wear boots with a suit, and allowed enough room in the jacket %26amp; pants for a holster.
Reply:No. I am not 007.....
Reply:no
Reply:heck yes, james bond did it !!!
Do you Believe that you can efficiently FIGHT, do Kung-fu, do Gun battles%26amp;etc.,while wearing your?
of course !
Reply:Yeah! Cus I'm a killer lethal pink ninja!! Stilettos are great throwing stars/spikes you know!
But shhh don't tell anyone my ninja identity!
Reply:Well enough. I always wear boots with a suit, and allowed enough room in the jacket %26amp; pants for a holster.
Reply:No. I am not 007.....
Reply:no
Reply:heck yes, james bond did it !!!
Whom would win in a fist fight ? Asian kung-fu generation or ...?
Boa, Day after tommorow, Do as infinity, Dir en grey, Every little thing, Gackt, The pillows, Greenday, High and mighty color, weezer, Number girl, Morning musume, Three days grace, yellow generation
Whom would win in a fist fight ? Asian kung-fu generation or ...?
Three Days Grace, no battle. Those dudes are hard core. I just saw them in concert last month, by the way. ROCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply:me i play with my nukes
Reply:Thai
Whom would win in a fist fight ? Asian kung-fu generation or ...?
Three Days Grace, no battle. Those dudes are hard core. I just saw them in concert last month, by the way. ROCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reply:me i play with my nukes
Reply:Thai
WHERE DO I LEARN KUNG FU IN INDIA AND WHO WILL WIN IF A AN ATHELE FIGHTS A KUNG FU person ?
A. Who will win a shaolin monk or a wwe wrestler ?
B. Who will win a shaolin monk or a boxer ?
C. Who will win a shaolin monk or a karate master ?
WHERE DO I LEARN KUNG FU IN INDIA AND WHO WILL WIN IF A AN ATHELE FIGHTS A KUNG FU person ?
If I were you, I would learn good English!
Reply:u need to work on ur english,as for which 1 is gona win,its the level of skill mastered that makes the difference,not their physical build up,better find out a school near your locality,remember to learn u only requiere urge to learn,instructor will be ur guide.rest is upto u,all the best Report It
B. Who will win a shaolin monk or a boxer ?
C. Who will win a shaolin monk or a karate master ?
WHERE DO I LEARN KUNG FU IN INDIA AND WHO WILL WIN IF A AN ATHELE FIGHTS A KUNG FU person ?
If I were you, I would learn good English!
Reply:u need to work on ur english,as for which 1 is gona win,its the level of skill mastered that makes the difference,not their physical build up,better find out a school near your locality,remember to learn u only requiere urge to learn,instructor will be ur guide.rest is upto u,all the best Report It
What style of Legit fighting do you train and where? (only real arts like Muay Thai and BJJ no Kung Fu lol)?
Right now i'm at Pacific Coast Martial arts training BJJ and improving my Western Boxing although I train a lot of Thai Boxing, but the hand emphasis isn't the same so i'm taking a short break from it.
What style of Legit fighting do you train and where? (only real arts like Muay Thai and BJJ no Kung Fu lol)?
My training is similar to yours. I train BJJ, Muay Thai, and Boxing. I also have a strong background in wrestling, having done it for over 6 years and having coached it for a short time. Right now I'm not near any schools, as I work on a Navy base in Italy. There are a couple of guys here with different backgrounds and we spar together, teaching each other what we can. When I get back to the states I'm going back to my BJJ school, and looking for a muay thai gym if I can find one.
I think you're training now is ideal for MMA. Boxing and muay thai have awesome footwork and striking techniques. Combine that with the comfort muay thai fighters have in the clinch and the ground fighting prowess of BJJ and you have a very well rounded fighter. All that's missing is the takedown ablility of wrestling or judo. I've trained with many higher ranked (in belt)BJJ practitioners, and I've always had them off the takedown. They eventually improve their position and get me with a submission, but that will change in time.
I don't completely agree with your view on Kung Fu, though. It's true that there aren't many MMA champions with Kung Fu backgrounds, but I don't think that is because of the stye. I think it's more because of the training.
Kung Fu, traditionally, was a mixed martial art form. The chinese brought together various famous fighters to study their styles and techniques and to develop strong fighters for battle. It's techniques are effective and it has potential for MMA Presently, though, I don't think Kung Fu is practiced in a way that builds great fighters. Especially in the US. It has become more of a forms based martial art and the practitioners don't spar enough, if at all. It's possible for a Kung Fu fighter to study for years and have less ring time than a Muay Thai boxer would get in his first few months at a gym.
Reply:aikido
actually, i don't kno any form of martial arts.
but that is the form that steven seagal does
Reply:Could you please explain why Kung Fu, which has been used in warfare since ancient times, is inferior to thai boxing, BJJ, and Western Boxing? I should post this question.
Reply:As with anything else, where you train and how you train effect more of the outcome as opposed to what you train in. I have seen fantastic Tae Kwon Do martial artists who train more as a martial art than a sport. I have seen BJJ martial artists who go to the ground right away while trying to take down somebody else and fail miserably. For someone to make such a generalized statement does a real disservice to people who practice their martial arts with the intended philosophies.
TKD is taught mainly as a sport nowadays. That doesn't mean you can't find a good teacher that teaches it as a fighting system. Muay Thai is, in fact, the sport version of a less popularized Thai martial art. I bet you would agree that it is still effective.
Finally, if you train in a complete system, one that encompasses projectile weapons (arrows, darts, even guns), long range weapons (spears, staffs), mid range weapons (swords, clubs), short range weapons (knives, daggers), foot and hand strikes, elbow and knee strikes, grappling, and ground fighting, you wouldn't need to take other styles because you would already be a well-rounded fighter. Strange how most Chinese martial arts do this and yet you discount them...
Reply:I train muay thai under Kru Bunkerd Faphimai and Kru Neungsiam at Fight and Fitness in San Francisco, CA. Both are former thai national champions. If you do not know what that is, it is the best thia boxer in Thailand for that year. Bunkered won it in '86 and Neungsiam won it in '96 I think. Both of these guys are awesome and like my brothers.
http://www.fightandfitness.com
Reply:I just started training at Jorge Gurgel's school in Muy Thai. I'm looking to have my first ama. fight in November.
What style of Legit fighting do you train and where? (only real arts like Muay Thai and BJJ no Kung Fu lol)?
My training is similar to yours. I train BJJ, Muay Thai, and Boxing. I also have a strong background in wrestling, having done it for over 6 years and having coached it for a short time. Right now I'm not near any schools, as I work on a Navy base in Italy. There are a couple of guys here with different backgrounds and we spar together, teaching each other what we can. When I get back to the states I'm going back to my BJJ school, and looking for a muay thai gym if I can find one.
I think you're training now is ideal for MMA. Boxing and muay thai have awesome footwork and striking techniques. Combine that with the comfort muay thai fighters have in the clinch and the ground fighting prowess of BJJ and you have a very well rounded fighter. All that's missing is the takedown ablility of wrestling or judo. I've trained with many higher ranked (in belt)BJJ practitioners, and I've always had them off the takedown. They eventually improve their position and get me with a submission, but that will change in time.
I don't completely agree with your view on Kung Fu, though. It's true that there aren't many MMA champions with Kung Fu backgrounds, but I don't think that is because of the stye. I think it's more because of the training.
Kung Fu, traditionally, was a mixed martial art form. The chinese brought together various famous fighters to study their styles and techniques and to develop strong fighters for battle. It's techniques are effective and it has potential for MMA Presently, though, I don't think Kung Fu is practiced in a way that builds great fighters. Especially in the US. It has become more of a forms based martial art and the practitioners don't spar enough, if at all. It's possible for a Kung Fu fighter to study for years and have less ring time than a Muay Thai boxer would get in his first few months at a gym.
Reply:aikido
actually, i don't kno any form of martial arts.
but that is the form that steven seagal does
Reply:Could you please explain why Kung Fu, which has been used in warfare since ancient times, is inferior to thai boxing, BJJ, and Western Boxing? I should post this question.
Reply:As with anything else, where you train and how you train effect more of the outcome as opposed to what you train in. I have seen fantastic Tae Kwon Do martial artists who train more as a martial art than a sport. I have seen BJJ martial artists who go to the ground right away while trying to take down somebody else and fail miserably. For someone to make such a generalized statement does a real disservice to people who practice their martial arts with the intended philosophies.
TKD is taught mainly as a sport nowadays. That doesn't mean you can't find a good teacher that teaches it as a fighting system. Muay Thai is, in fact, the sport version of a less popularized Thai martial art. I bet you would agree that it is still effective.
Finally, if you train in a complete system, one that encompasses projectile weapons (arrows, darts, even guns), long range weapons (spears, staffs), mid range weapons (swords, clubs), short range weapons (knives, daggers), foot and hand strikes, elbow and knee strikes, grappling, and ground fighting, you wouldn't need to take other styles because you would already be a well-rounded fighter. Strange how most Chinese martial arts do this and yet you discount them...
Reply:I train muay thai under Kru Bunkerd Faphimai and Kru Neungsiam at Fight and Fitness in San Francisco, CA. Both are former thai national champions. If you do not know what that is, it is the best thia boxer in Thailand for that year. Bunkered won it in '86 and Neungsiam won it in '96 I think. Both of these guys are awesome and like my brothers.
http://www.fightandfitness.com
Reply:I just started training at Jorge Gurgel's school in Muy Thai. I'm looking to have my first ama. fight in November.
Aikido vs kung fu?
who do you think would win in a ufc fight a kung fu black belt or an aikido black belt
Aikido vs kung fu?
Aiki-Jitsu is extremely dangerous and it is what Aiki-do was derived (just as Ju-do was derived from Ju-jutsu).
Today Aikido is extremely defense oriented but nevertheless effective. Aikido really isn't designed for a prize fighting environment for pugilists to strut their stuff in front of screaming fans, Aikido is really for self-defense in a back alley at night in the winter against hoodlums.
Kung Fu can be applied to a prize-fighting environment, but that would be a real waste of your kung fu talent. Like Aikido, Kung fu is meant to be used for self-defense against severe assault to justify your finger strikes to the eyes and other gouging techniques required by kung fu.
Reply:well in aikido you dont learn how to "attack" its all about redirecting the opponents' motion so it came down to points an aikido practitioner would lose points due to passiveness in the fight and no controlling the octagon.
and on the other hand there are tons of different kung fus need to be a little more specific.
anyways it totally depends on how the person used the style they learned
Reply:omfg aikido is cr*p i went to join an aikido club and it was a slow motion moving like a gaint pansy. so i joined a karate club instead.
kung fu is amazing, they know alot of awesome moves.
KUNG FU all the way
Reply:kung fu
Reply:If it's going by a point system, Aikido would not 'win.' It's primarily a reaction based system, and while very effective and efficient in an actual fight, it would not 'win' in this scenario... If you even call that winning in battle. Last I checked, there was no point system in a true battle.
This is not absolute, however.
You can speculate all you want, even watch a fight or two with sets close to what you say here, but you would get no definitive answer. What is more important here is not the art, but the practicioner of that art. Any martial art can be 'lethal' or 'passive' depending on the warrior that uses it. There are users of aggressive arts that have been overtaken by practicioners of Tai Chi Chuan and the like. It's the person, not the style, that makes the difference.
Reply:well kung fu is too wide of a term. there are many types of kung fu, and in fact aikido might be in a sub-category of this.
aikido is a style of fighting that is meant to bring down an attacker with MINIMAL EFFORT. the main goal is to simply redirrect an attackers force, and not oppose it directly. thus, not using much energy. if mastered, an aikido blackbelt can take down an attacker without breaking a sweat, because of how little effort is required.
Reply:Well a large amount of aikido techniques are illegal in UFC because they would break joints too fast and manipulate small joints. The techniques are not meant for sport and many of them could leave people permanently crippled.
Ex: if your threw someone using shihonage and they resisted you could tear out many of the muscles and tendons in the shoulder.
Aikido can be offensive but that is only at the higher levels after the aikidoka has learned how to do technique well and concentrate their power.
Also aikido is more for situations where someone is coming at you full force and trying to SERIOUSLY hurt you. Unlike in MMA in real life people won't jab at you if they're trying to kill you. They will charge, strike hard, or use a weapon.
It would also depend on the style on kung fu and stlye of aikido. Some styles would be more susceptible to aikido techniques due to the range. Aikido is a longer range fighting style than say Wing Chun or Southern Mantis Kung Fu.
Also in aikido most of the styles (excepting yoshinkan) do not put much emphasis on applicable technique.
And while I do train in aikido it has a long learning curve. There's a saying that you only begin to understand it at 3rd degree blackbelt, that that's the "first step" if you will.
I think Kung Fu would beat aikido at the lower levels but if you had a high level aikidoka (especially yoshinkan) vs a high level kung fu practitioner the aikidoka would win.
But in the end as has been said over and over.
ITS THE PRACTITIONER NOT THE ART.
A shitty kung fu guy will never beat a good aikido guy. And a shitty aikido guy will never beat a good kung fu guy.
Reply:akido is more passive like redirecting the attack but they also have a fighting style but its not very affective if they were the fighter but u still have to look at the fighters more then the style because u could have a great kung fu guy that would kill akido or u could have a great akido guy that could kill a kung fu. hope this helps
Reply:The Kung Fu stylist, although traditional CMA's do not use belts.
So yeah, really any kung fu style except Tai Chi, Pa Kua, or Xingyi, but even so...
Reply:It would come down to the person. When you have two semi-contact styles coming together you end up with a low grade scuffle that looks like neither of the original styles.
Both would have spent all of their careers sparring(assuming they even spar) only their own guys and expecting them to react a certain way and when they don't it ends up like two kids in a sandpit
As a greco wrestler I used to go along to aikido and because we did not comply with all the throws the blackbelt expected to work(they could not even grip us actually) we would get asked to leave.
And kung fu guys, as a boxer I went into along to one of their comps, having heard they mostly used hand styles anyway, and having knocked the first two guys out with jabs the crowd cottoned on I was not kung fu and I was disqualified.
Reply:Shinbu, Yoshinkan, and Tomiki Aikido are the top 3 styles of Aikido. But in Aikido they would not be aloud to use 80% of there techniques.
As for Kung Fu they are many styles with them as well and I am sure that they wouldnt be aloud to use all of there techniques either
Reply:Aikido techniques are not allowed in MMA so its too dificult to answer your question, besides it depends about kung fu style
Aikido vs kung fu?
Aiki-Jitsu is extremely dangerous and it is what Aiki-do was derived (just as Ju-do was derived from Ju-jutsu).
Today Aikido is extremely defense oriented but nevertheless effective. Aikido really isn't designed for a prize fighting environment for pugilists to strut their stuff in front of screaming fans, Aikido is really for self-defense in a back alley at night in the winter against hoodlums.
Kung Fu can be applied to a prize-fighting environment, but that would be a real waste of your kung fu talent. Like Aikido, Kung fu is meant to be used for self-defense against severe assault to justify your finger strikes to the eyes and other gouging techniques required by kung fu.
Reply:well in aikido you dont learn how to "attack" its all about redirecting the opponents' motion so it came down to points an aikido practitioner would lose points due to passiveness in the fight and no controlling the octagon.
and on the other hand there are tons of different kung fus need to be a little more specific.
anyways it totally depends on how the person used the style they learned
Reply:omfg aikido is cr*p i went to join an aikido club and it was a slow motion moving like a gaint pansy. so i joined a karate club instead.
kung fu is amazing, they know alot of awesome moves.
KUNG FU all the way
Reply:kung fu
Reply:If it's going by a point system, Aikido would not 'win.' It's primarily a reaction based system, and while very effective and efficient in an actual fight, it would not 'win' in this scenario... If you even call that winning in battle. Last I checked, there was no point system in a true battle.
This is not absolute, however.
You can speculate all you want, even watch a fight or two with sets close to what you say here, but you would get no definitive answer. What is more important here is not the art, but the practicioner of that art. Any martial art can be 'lethal' or 'passive' depending on the warrior that uses it. There are users of aggressive arts that have been overtaken by practicioners of Tai Chi Chuan and the like. It's the person, not the style, that makes the difference.
Reply:well kung fu is too wide of a term. there are many types of kung fu, and in fact aikido might be in a sub-category of this.
aikido is a style of fighting that is meant to bring down an attacker with MINIMAL EFFORT. the main goal is to simply redirrect an attackers force, and not oppose it directly. thus, not using much energy. if mastered, an aikido blackbelt can take down an attacker without breaking a sweat, because of how little effort is required.
Reply:Well a large amount of aikido techniques are illegal in UFC because they would break joints too fast and manipulate small joints. The techniques are not meant for sport and many of them could leave people permanently crippled.
Ex: if your threw someone using shihonage and they resisted you could tear out many of the muscles and tendons in the shoulder.
Aikido can be offensive but that is only at the higher levels after the aikidoka has learned how to do technique well and concentrate their power.
Also aikido is more for situations where someone is coming at you full force and trying to SERIOUSLY hurt you. Unlike in MMA in real life people won't jab at you if they're trying to kill you. They will charge, strike hard, or use a weapon.
It would also depend on the style on kung fu and stlye of aikido. Some styles would be more susceptible to aikido techniques due to the range. Aikido is a longer range fighting style than say Wing Chun or Southern Mantis Kung Fu.
Also in aikido most of the styles (excepting yoshinkan) do not put much emphasis on applicable technique.
And while I do train in aikido it has a long learning curve. There's a saying that you only begin to understand it at 3rd degree blackbelt, that that's the "first step" if you will.
I think Kung Fu would beat aikido at the lower levels but if you had a high level aikidoka (especially yoshinkan) vs a high level kung fu practitioner the aikidoka would win.
But in the end as has been said over and over.
ITS THE PRACTITIONER NOT THE ART.
A shitty kung fu guy will never beat a good aikido guy. And a shitty aikido guy will never beat a good kung fu guy.
Reply:akido is more passive like redirecting the attack but they also have a fighting style but its not very affective if they were the fighter but u still have to look at the fighters more then the style because u could have a great kung fu guy that would kill akido or u could have a great akido guy that could kill a kung fu. hope this helps
Reply:The Kung Fu stylist, although traditional CMA's do not use belts.
So yeah, really any kung fu style except Tai Chi, Pa Kua, or Xingyi, but even so...
Reply:It would come down to the person. When you have two semi-contact styles coming together you end up with a low grade scuffle that looks like neither of the original styles.
Both would have spent all of their careers sparring(assuming they even spar) only their own guys and expecting them to react a certain way and when they don't it ends up like two kids in a sandpit
As a greco wrestler I used to go along to aikido and because we did not comply with all the throws the blackbelt expected to work(they could not even grip us actually) we would get asked to leave.
And kung fu guys, as a boxer I went into along to one of their comps, having heard they mostly used hand styles anyway, and having knocked the first two guys out with jabs the crowd cottoned on I was not kung fu and I was disqualified.
Reply:Shinbu, Yoshinkan, and Tomiki Aikido are the top 3 styles of Aikido. But in Aikido they would not be aloud to use 80% of there techniques.
As for Kung Fu they are many styles with them as well and I am sure that they wouldnt be aloud to use all of there techniques either
Reply:Aikido techniques are not allowed in MMA so its too dificult to answer your question, besides it depends about kung fu style
Why dont kung fu monk fight in competitions?
First and foremost, violence for the sake of violence is radically against their philosophy. Secondly, a Shaolin doesn't feel the need to prove themselves in combat; such a need would arise out of vanity and that too, is frowned upon by Buddhists. In ancient times, the monks did fight when the need arose (and that meant they would fight in only in order to put an end to an even greater violence) and proved themselves to be a formidable force every time.
Why dont kung fu monk fight in competitions?
monk's dont believe in senseless violence
Reply:They are smart...In fighting in competition they have to reveal their secret or they will lose so why take the chance. They rather let the public worship something unknown.
Reply:That is not what martial art is for. From prespective I think the only reason that a martial art class like karate and taekwondo spar is because they do it to develop certain type of attributes and abilities. We don't spar in Kung fu because we have exerise that will help us develop attributes and abilities. Also Kung Fu is not a sport so why will they compete? I think the Martial Art community should start distinguishing between sport and martial art. Why should one consider martial arts as sports?
Reply:Many Kung fu arts were developed for battlefield combat. So they were used for killing multiple enemies without rules as to which techniques they shouldn't use. The point was to kill the enemy at any means necessary.Competitions are 1 vs 1 fights where you aren't supposed to kill the opponent and there are many rules as to what you can't do. So kung fu isn't meant for competition.
Reply:When a priest get into kung fu, it is (or should be) merely used as a tool -- not as an end unto itself.
The only person you are competing against is yourself!
.
peach fruit
Why dont kung fu monk fight in competitions?
monk's dont believe in senseless violence
Reply:They are smart...In fighting in competition they have to reveal their secret or they will lose so why take the chance. They rather let the public worship something unknown.
Reply:That is not what martial art is for. From prespective I think the only reason that a martial art class like karate and taekwondo spar is because they do it to develop certain type of attributes and abilities. We don't spar in Kung fu because we have exerise that will help us develop attributes and abilities. Also Kung Fu is not a sport so why will they compete? I think the Martial Art community should start distinguishing between sport and martial art. Why should one consider martial arts as sports?
Reply:Many Kung fu arts were developed for battlefield combat. So they were used for killing multiple enemies without rules as to which techniques they shouldn't use. The point was to kill the enemy at any means necessary.Competitions are 1 vs 1 fights where you aren't supposed to kill the opponent and there are many rules as to what you can't do. So kung fu isn't meant for competition.
Reply:When a priest get into kung fu, it is (or should be) merely used as a tool -- not as an end unto itself.
The only person you are competing against is yourself!
.
peach fruit
What's the name of the old-school Kung fu movie where the guy uses a "cat" style of fighting to beat the evil
In the movie, our hero sees a cat fighting a snake, and he improvises his own "cat" style to beat his evil nemesis, who--if I recall--used a "snake" style. I saw it one Saturday morning and thought it was awesome, but I didn't catch the name of it, and now I have no idea how to find it and buy it, so I can watch it again and again and again.
What's the name of the old-school Kung fu movie where the guy uses a "cat" style of fighting to beat the evil
dude its jackie chan
i think the one your talking about is snake in eagles shadow, but might be eagle claw snake fist cats paw 2. does the school get beat up by another school and the hero (jackie) is just the servant boy thats not allowed to train, if so snake in eagle shadow.meow!
What's the name of the old-school Kung fu movie where the guy uses a "cat" style of fighting to beat the evil
dude its jackie chan
i think the one your talking about is snake in eagles shadow, but might be eagle claw snake fist cats paw 2. does the school get beat up by another school and the hero (jackie) is just the servant boy thats not allowed to train, if so snake in eagle shadow.meow!
I saw this really bad kung-fu movie, don't know the name can u help?
I remember the end scene where this man with no legs and a man with no arms were fighting their kung fu master and had him beat. But then they all laughed and it was the end of the movie. Any ideas? Or is that how every kung fu movie ends?
I saw this really bad kung-fu movie, don't know the name can u help?
I don't watch kung fu, but i found a link to one that may be it. It's called Cripled Masters.
http://www.stomptokyo.com/badmoviereport...
Reply:every bad kung fu movie ends with people laughing
Reply:I don't know this movie, sorry ....
Reply:Pretty much all kung-fu movies are bad, so the name really doesn't matter much.
wallflower
I saw this really bad kung-fu movie, don't know the name can u help?
I don't watch kung fu, but i found a link to one that may be it. It's called Cripled Masters.
http://www.stomptokyo.com/badmoviereport...
Reply:every bad kung fu movie ends with people laughing
Reply:I don't know this movie, sorry ....
Reply:Pretty much all kung-fu movies are bad, so the name really doesn't matter much.
wallflower
Qi gong and Chinese kung fu can really fight in compettion ?
Qi gong and Chinese kung fu can really fight in compettion ? (except Sanshou, chinese kickboxing).
I heard some freak told me that their "qi" can easily beat the opponent in competition. i dont buy it. So, what u guys think ?
*im practicing muay thai btw.
Qi gong and Chinese kung fu can really fight in compettion ?
Ok I'll take the bait.
Qi or Chi, is present in every martial art that I have ever heard of. Qi, is present in every living thing. If you want to call it something but don't really understand what it is, then just try to imagine it being what I just wrote. It is the energy that is present in every living thing. Qi is not a super power.
The practice of Qi Gong, (sounds like Chee Gung) is to raise the level of this life energy in order to disperse it for a purpose. Kung Fu and Tai Chi grew out of Qi Gong. Note that the practice began to for use in medical treatment.
Yes, I do think that Qi Gong is very effective in competition. In my opinion a fighter like Randy Couture has very good Chi. He probably doesn't call it that, but I would say a majority of the winning fighters in the MMA have some sort of practice that they use to instinctively raise their essentially energy levels prior to a fight.
An MMA example of a fighter who uses only instinct and emotion, no Chi would be Tank Abbott.
There is also a reason why we write the words as Qi or Chi in Modern English and if you read my answer carefully you can probably get an idea of what that is.
Reply:If you have a choice, don't fight the guy at all. If you have no way out why not challenge him to an MMA match? In my experience a coward will do anything to avoid being defeated fairly, in public. Report It
Reply:The thing about kung fu is the strikes attack the pressure points (illegal in MMA) and focus on opponent debilitation. It's unethecal to strike the neck of your opponent in a competition. Kung fu was invented for self defense, and self purification. Certainly it wasn't made to fight people in non-lethal combat. Some people say Kung Fu sucks because you don't see it prevelent in MMA which isn't true. They just don't know what they're talking about. Krav Maga you'll never see in MMA, but it's very effective in real life.
Reply:This is a video in which a master of Kiai fights an MMA fighter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEDaCIDvj...
here is another link with Combat Ki vs Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdrzBL2dH...
both videos show Ki knocking out they're OWN students, but always seem to fall short when it comes to fighting other styles.
Reply:If you are good, it doesn't matter what anyone else uses in a competition. I'm sure kung fu works, as for qi, I know adrenaline works, as well as a well focused strike will.
Reply:Only in very advanced stages of martial arts.
It would be suspect to see someone using this ability for public competition, as the chief aim of using this art is strictly for self-defense and the preservation of life.
For some, qi may sound like a mystical, ephemeral substance, but in actuality, it is akin to an electrical medium that permeates humans and thier immediate surroundings. Practicing qi gong during prescribed periods of the day (and year; esp during full moon periods) for more than 5 years, will allow the student to tangibly feel and see this medium. It is said that only then, will one come to believe in qi.
While this knowledge can be used in distance healing, it also has roots in martial arts. Advanced practitioners have the ability to stop, control and redirect the oncoming movements of an opponent, based on controlling their own thoughts and intentions. It is like an electrical matrix that surrounds both the practitioner and the opponent, except, that the practitioner has the ability to manipulate and control the direction in which this matrix, or qi flows (keep in mind that the human body is also made up largely of water, which is very conductive to electrical currents).
Reply:Chi does exist as its been scientifically proven with heat and electric sensors. Thats not the debate. The debate is whether or not someone is skillful with it enough to be able to defeat someone with it alone, which I doubt. Even if they could, it'd be so rare.
As for how effective Chinese Kung Fu is, its certainly stood the test of time. Huo Juan Xia was a tested Wushu Kung Fu user in the 1900s that defeated challenges from Western wrestlers and even defeated an entire Judo school.
Wing Chun is rated by many as the most effective stand up martail art along with Muay Thai.
Reply:Chinese Kung Fu is for self defense in the street, groin kick, eye gouging, spear hand technique among other things are forbidden in tournament so they wouldn't do well in competition. However, "qi" alone can't do anything, they also need technique. Chinese monks in China in the past had time, they train 24/7 so I am pretty sure they can fight because if that is all you do and don't have to worry about going to work to pay bill then you must be proficient but Kung Fu practioners today are not dedicate enough, simpler but more practical technique like muay thai, tae kwon do, karate are more popular because you can learn those in a relative shorter period of time and nowaday nobody have alot of time.
I heard some freak told me that their "qi" can easily beat the opponent in competition. i dont buy it. So, what u guys think ?
*im practicing muay thai btw.
Qi gong and Chinese kung fu can really fight in compettion ?
Ok I'll take the bait.
Qi or Chi, is present in every martial art that I have ever heard of. Qi, is present in every living thing. If you want to call it something but don't really understand what it is, then just try to imagine it being what I just wrote. It is the energy that is present in every living thing. Qi is not a super power.
The practice of Qi Gong, (sounds like Chee Gung) is to raise the level of this life energy in order to disperse it for a purpose. Kung Fu and Tai Chi grew out of Qi Gong. Note that the practice began to for use in medical treatment.
Yes, I do think that Qi Gong is very effective in competition. In my opinion a fighter like Randy Couture has very good Chi. He probably doesn't call it that, but I would say a majority of the winning fighters in the MMA have some sort of practice that they use to instinctively raise their essentially energy levels prior to a fight.
An MMA example of a fighter who uses only instinct and emotion, no Chi would be Tank Abbott.
There is also a reason why we write the words as Qi or Chi in Modern English and if you read my answer carefully you can probably get an idea of what that is.
Reply:If you have a choice, don't fight the guy at all. If you have no way out why not challenge him to an MMA match? In my experience a coward will do anything to avoid being defeated fairly, in public. Report It
Reply:The thing about kung fu is the strikes attack the pressure points (illegal in MMA) and focus on opponent debilitation. It's unethecal to strike the neck of your opponent in a competition. Kung fu was invented for self defense, and self purification. Certainly it wasn't made to fight people in non-lethal combat. Some people say Kung Fu sucks because you don't see it prevelent in MMA which isn't true. They just don't know what they're talking about. Krav Maga you'll never see in MMA, but it's very effective in real life.
Reply:This is a video in which a master of Kiai fights an MMA fighter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEDaCIDvj...
here is another link with Combat Ki vs Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdrzBL2dH...
both videos show Ki knocking out they're OWN students, but always seem to fall short when it comes to fighting other styles.
Reply:If you are good, it doesn't matter what anyone else uses in a competition. I'm sure kung fu works, as for qi, I know adrenaline works, as well as a well focused strike will.
Reply:Only in very advanced stages of martial arts.
It would be suspect to see someone using this ability for public competition, as the chief aim of using this art is strictly for self-defense and the preservation of life.
For some, qi may sound like a mystical, ephemeral substance, but in actuality, it is akin to an electrical medium that permeates humans and thier immediate surroundings. Practicing qi gong during prescribed periods of the day (and year; esp during full moon periods) for more than 5 years, will allow the student to tangibly feel and see this medium. It is said that only then, will one come to believe in qi.
While this knowledge can be used in distance healing, it also has roots in martial arts. Advanced practitioners have the ability to stop, control and redirect the oncoming movements of an opponent, based on controlling their own thoughts and intentions. It is like an electrical matrix that surrounds both the practitioner and the opponent, except, that the practitioner has the ability to manipulate and control the direction in which this matrix, or qi flows (keep in mind that the human body is also made up largely of water, which is very conductive to electrical currents).
Reply:Chi does exist as its been scientifically proven with heat and electric sensors. Thats not the debate. The debate is whether or not someone is skillful with it enough to be able to defeat someone with it alone, which I doubt. Even if they could, it'd be so rare.
As for how effective Chinese Kung Fu is, its certainly stood the test of time. Huo Juan Xia was a tested Wushu Kung Fu user in the 1900s that defeated challenges from Western wrestlers and even defeated an entire Judo school.
Wing Chun is rated by many as the most effective stand up martail art along with Muay Thai.
Reply:Chinese Kung Fu is for self defense in the street, groin kick, eye gouging, spear hand technique among other things are forbidden in tournament so they wouldn't do well in competition. However, "qi" alone can't do anything, they also need technique. Chinese monks in China in the past had time, they train 24/7 so I am pretty sure they can fight because if that is all you do and don't have to worry about going to work to pay bill then you must be proficient but Kung Fu practioners today are not dedicate enough, simpler but more practical technique like muay thai, tae kwon do, karate are more popular because you can learn those in a relative shorter period of time and nowaday nobody have alot of time.
People are always so quick to defend Kung Fu?
People always find excuse about why Kung Fu never fight or take part in tourney. They alway talk about how Kung Fu guys woud totally tear up anybody easily and how dangerous they're.
So I decide to do some research. I come up with few videos, here they are:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CHoWzBBN...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqD8Odae...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL3JZUm0i...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQFuX7Wpd... (gotta LOVE the windmill punches :-D )
Longer version:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo5t-GMDM...
Here's the nearest thing to respectable level: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT6FUfID2...
Now where's all those "deadly techniques" that no one dare to speak of? Where's all those one punch that end the fight? Howcome those guys end up on ground if they're a such great fighter? Where's all graceful movement?
People are always so quick to defend Kung Fu?
Are you seriously attempting to disprove what took the culmination of thousands of years to attain through six youtube videos? Apparently, I gave you more credit than you deserve, ninedemons.
Anybody can be great at something or horrible at another. An individual cannot possibly represent everybody else in similar standing all the time. I have seen plenty of poor Chinese boxers, but I have also seen excellent ones. Besides, one person's weakness may be another's strength despite both being in the same system.
Do you really expect to see a "deadly technique" in a tournament anyway? I could imagine the headlines now! It makes me wonder how you define competition versus an actual fight.
Also, you do realize that Mantis, Wing Chun, and Tai Chi Chuan are usually grouped together as kung fu, so what does showing two fighters from similar backgrounds prove as far as your argument is concerned?
You generalize too much.
Reply:A picture is worth a Thousand words.
I have yet to see a Great Kung Fu fighter fight anyone,
So far none yet, Cung Lee would be a great example.
If you actually got an experienced Gung Fu fighter, then weapons need to be involved. Gung Fu has weapons established as a means to kill you with to ensure victory.
This was proven when Japan invaded China and left, Korea the Hwrang warriors killed many Samurai, to this day Britan still uses Gurka warriors as in Grenada as they kill anyone fast with a knife.
When a form of combat shines it does not diminsh the others, it shows the value of our past. Each system will have a benefit that has kept it recognized as a gift for all to study. To much prejudice in people and in arts.
I remember when we all liked each other ( self defense in the us has changed ) and tried to work together, this is not Mortal Combat.
Martial Artists represent where mankind is headed in it's view of what we term as a means of self preservation.
Fighting has nothing to do with being Safe.
I believe Pride etc does not represent Self Defense
or Martial Arts in a manner suited for public use.
It is as Boxing, for those who want to get hit.
Reply:it all comes down to people defending THEIR choices. no one wants to say their choice is a crap one. after 20 years at something, it would be psychological suicide to admit it was a waste of time.
so it s not so much defending kung fu, it becomes a defense of their choice to do it.
just like religion, it is a waste of time to express your opinion against an opposing one, because very few people self analyse themselves, so sty blind to dogma. martial arts is the same.
unless you take an honest look at whats going on, you will be part of the problem not part of a solution.
everyone should be critical of what they learn and think. if we are not, we are blind to possibility, and therefor at a disadvantage.
Reply:Every art has weaknesses as far as techniques go, but by far the weakest link in any art is usually the practitioner. No matter how powerful the art, if the person using it isn't any good, then they will always lose.
In the first video the kung fu guy was lousy. His strikes and kicks had no power, he was afraid to get hit, and he obviously had never heard of combinations. His opponent showed good technique and power, and that kick that took the kung fu guy down showed he had the strength and balance to completely follow thru even after the main force of the kick was spent.
I liked the Mantis v. Wing Chun too, but the WC guy was afraid to get hit too and seemed therefore afraid to push to get inside where his style is strongest, even though when he did he was able to quickly get his opponent off balance and take him down even. He seemed weak on his "sticking hands" techniques too.
It's not the style, it's the practitioner.
Reply:any martial artist worth his salt knows all styles have weaknesses and strenghts.street defence and ring fighting are completely different.if ma got in the ring to use techniques that can kill there wouldn't be many if any ring fights now would there?and when you get 2 ppl that have equal abilities any so called one punch etc. techniques are just not going to happen.hey i love my mauy thai and am good at it but i wouldn't use it in a self defence situation because i know thats not what it is designed for.but that doesn't in any way mean its no good?just because something isnt good for a particular application doesnt mean its no good overall.and that includes kung fu.
Reply:I think there is much to see on "youtube"
Like this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d_jbU2XN...
It appears the Thi fighter breaks his "Own leg",leg kicking a Western American Boxer.The Boxer appears to be fine.
Sure is different from the "Masato vs Boxer" video you posted.
Does this mean "All" Thi fighters are poor?Leg kicks are bad?
Reply:dude your right northern kung fu is so unpratical and worthless its just a dance and this movie is proof http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmcqIlJuV... ..its the artist not the art... sides lots of ppl say thier arts the best.... and kung fu has become such a broad term... some ppl train just on pratical combat and some have it more like a dance... for compatitions n stuff.. and if u ever grapple with a kung fu guy whos good at chi'na.... well.... it hurts and nomatter what ya do he always had a counter...ne ways there are good kung fu pratictioners and bad... same as karate or aikido.. u know this
Reply:OK. As a practitioner of Tien Shan Pai, I'd like to respond in defense of all the Kung Fu styles.
First of all, most of those guys don't even use what I would consider Kung Fu techniques. In that first video, I wasn't even sure which guy was the Kung Fu artist. Second, if there are 'deadly techniques' associated with Kung Fu, do you really think You Tube would host a video that showed a guy killing another human being? Guns are deadly, but you don't need to watch a video of a guy getting his head blown off to know that. I'm not saying that I possess any of these so-called 'deadly' techniques, but even if I did, the only videos that demonstrated such techniques would likely be locked up in an evidence locker awaiting my trial.
There have been boxers, Muay Thai fighters, and MMA fighters who have ended fights with one punch. That is not a claim that is exclusive to Kung Fu. As for going to the ground, they guys that took them down were trained grapplers. Guys that don't know how to grapple and try to take someone to the ground often leave themselves open to knee strikes, or other techniques. Trained grapplers know how to shoot and avoid such techniques.
I'm not defending all Kung Fu artists, but I could go to You Tube and download video of any style being beaten by any other style. That only proves that person 'A' beat person 'B'. Neither of those two represent everyone in their art. Would I be able to beat any of those guys? I don't know. I watched the film and saw things that I would do differently. But chances are my opponent wouldn't have done the exact same thing against me, so who can say?
I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I'd just like to point out that your 'research' is anything but scientific or conclusive.
Reply:let me start with this. There is NO perfect martial art - anyone who claims otherwise is deluding themselves. They all have strengths and weaknesses. Kung fu is no different. But you are basing everything on a few videos and on the statements of people who apparently don't understand true marital arts anyways. Not exactly a convincing arguement. I for one don't fight or do tournaments because I don't feel the need to prove anything. I know what I can do and what I can't, and I don't really care if anyone else does. That's not why I do this. You also need to realize ( as several people have already said) its not the art, its the artist. I'm sure if you talked to 10 different M.A.'s in any style, you would see 10 ways of doing things. It depends on the person and the teacher. I for one have to adjust and modify some things because what works for my teacher doesn't always work for me.
overall, it sounds like the people you've been talking to are just that - all talk. A real Kung fu person knows better.
Reply:without even looking at the vids I know what they are going to show.
Some "wassaah" kung fu (cma) guy who didn't train realistically and believed in his "too deadly one punch kill" which he never trained?
Thats pretty much 99% of CMA out there.
I think it is a huge problem in CMA that most schools don't train to fight.
Instead of stating the obvious, I think you should ask why.
Even styles that claim to have the deadly "knuckle sandwich of death" can train everything else, or why can't I train it with a chest/ head protector?
There are times we have sparred in class, without gloves but with chest/head on to feel "empty hand". Is your "dim mak" too strong to train even against someone wearing a chest/head protector- or neck that even with your "awesome chi power" you can't even train it in a sparring situation with light contact to see if you can even practically land it?
It might not be practical to do this every class, but even if you have "the deadly" what good is it if you don't train it?
If you want to test it out, then get some individuals who don't fall under the term "person" for legality (homicide is against a person) like hare krishnas, scientologists, peta members and metrosexuals.
I think CMA, because of its "light training" rep tends to attract people looking for shortcuts.
If you could be a "fighting master" that is so deadly, without having to train hard and only had to put in an hour a week then who the hell wouldn't?
I could think of a hundred extra things to do with the extra time- fact is, it doesn't work like that.
so the people who want to compete- don't look to CMA because they want to go where they have the best odds and connections. Another thing, someone looking to get into the UFC is going to have a lot better opportunities to be seen as part of a gracie or machado school than "cream of sum yung guy's" tai chi academy.
Personally, I want to see this change, I want to see CMA guys (besides san da or cma guys of other styles who enter san da/san shou tournaments/leagues) come out and fight in the major MMA leagues (although I think we are heading for a wba, wbc and ibf alphabet title situation with new mma leagues).
the problem is that I think most cma schools try to attract these people by teaching "the deadly" and "you don't have to train hard" mentality and this reflects poorly on ALL cma schools.
people who want to be career fighters don't go there because they don't have the rep that they work.
It is harder to get a good rep because people who want to be career fighters don't go there.
I'm hoping to see a CMA fighter excell in MMA, but not for the reason to say "look at the deadly!", but because I think that will go a long way to cleaning up CMAs and lifting people's illusions about fighting.
EDIT: CMA is not "gracefull" by dictionary definition, if it is, you aren't fighting you are LARPing. My definition of grace is being able to strike an opponent powerfully with clean technique- "textbook clean technique".
Reply:According to grandmaster Wong Kiew Kit(A practitioner of shaolin kung fu), Kung Fu has mostly degenerated into mostly a DEMONSTRATIVE form of martial arts. Also, according to Kiew Kit, the instructors of a particular art(any art) will usually give vague explanations or mysterious reasons as to why they cannot demonstrate something or explain something in depth when they have something to hide. And what they are trying to conceal is the fact that they may be phonies.
Phony instructors and teachings are not necessarily limited to the art of shaolin kung fu.
So I decide to do some research. I come up with few videos, here they are:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CHoWzBBN...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqD8Odae...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL3JZUm0i...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQFuX7Wpd... (gotta LOVE the windmill punches :-D )
Longer version:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo5t-GMDM...
Here's the nearest thing to respectable level: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT6FUfID2...
Now where's all those "deadly techniques" that no one dare to speak of? Where's all those one punch that end the fight? Howcome those guys end up on ground if they're a such great fighter? Where's all graceful movement?
People are always so quick to defend Kung Fu?
Are you seriously attempting to disprove what took the culmination of thousands of years to attain through six youtube videos? Apparently, I gave you more credit than you deserve, ninedemons.
Anybody can be great at something or horrible at another. An individual cannot possibly represent everybody else in similar standing all the time. I have seen plenty of poor Chinese boxers, but I have also seen excellent ones. Besides, one person's weakness may be another's strength despite both being in the same system.
Do you really expect to see a "deadly technique" in a tournament anyway? I could imagine the headlines now! It makes me wonder how you define competition versus an actual fight.
Also, you do realize that Mantis, Wing Chun, and Tai Chi Chuan are usually grouped together as kung fu, so what does showing two fighters from similar backgrounds prove as far as your argument is concerned?
You generalize too much.
Reply:A picture is worth a Thousand words.
I have yet to see a Great Kung Fu fighter fight anyone,
So far none yet, Cung Lee would be a great example.
If you actually got an experienced Gung Fu fighter, then weapons need to be involved. Gung Fu has weapons established as a means to kill you with to ensure victory.
This was proven when Japan invaded China and left, Korea the Hwrang warriors killed many Samurai, to this day Britan still uses Gurka warriors as in Grenada as they kill anyone fast with a knife.
When a form of combat shines it does not diminsh the others, it shows the value of our past. Each system will have a benefit that has kept it recognized as a gift for all to study. To much prejudice in people and in arts.
I remember when we all liked each other ( self defense in the us has changed ) and tried to work together, this is not Mortal Combat.
Martial Artists represent where mankind is headed in it's view of what we term as a means of self preservation.
Fighting has nothing to do with being Safe.
I believe Pride etc does not represent Self Defense
or Martial Arts in a manner suited for public use.
It is as Boxing, for those who want to get hit.
Reply:it all comes down to people defending THEIR choices. no one wants to say their choice is a crap one. after 20 years at something, it would be psychological suicide to admit it was a waste of time.
so it s not so much defending kung fu, it becomes a defense of their choice to do it.
just like religion, it is a waste of time to express your opinion against an opposing one, because very few people self analyse themselves, so sty blind to dogma. martial arts is the same.
unless you take an honest look at whats going on, you will be part of the problem not part of a solution.
everyone should be critical of what they learn and think. if we are not, we are blind to possibility, and therefor at a disadvantage.
Reply:Every art has weaknesses as far as techniques go, but by far the weakest link in any art is usually the practitioner. No matter how powerful the art, if the person using it isn't any good, then they will always lose.
In the first video the kung fu guy was lousy. His strikes and kicks had no power, he was afraid to get hit, and he obviously had never heard of combinations. His opponent showed good technique and power, and that kick that took the kung fu guy down showed he had the strength and balance to completely follow thru even after the main force of the kick was spent.
I liked the Mantis v. Wing Chun too, but the WC guy was afraid to get hit too and seemed therefore afraid to push to get inside where his style is strongest, even though when he did he was able to quickly get his opponent off balance and take him down even. He seemed weak on his "sticking hands" techniques too.
It's not the style, it's the practitioner.
Reply:any martial artist worth his salt knows all styles have weaknesses and strenghts.street defence and ring fighting are completely different.if ma got in the ring to use techniques that can kill there wouldn't be many if any ring fights now would there?and when you get 2 ppl that have equal abilities any so called one punch etc. techniques are just not going to happen.hey i love my mauy thai and am good at it but i wouldn't use it in a self defence situation because i know thats not what it is designed for.but that doesn't in any way mean its no good?just because something isnt good for a particular application doesnt mean its no good overall.and that includes kung fu.
Reply:I think there is much to see on "youtube"
Like this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d_jbU2XN...
It appears the Thi fighter breaks his "Own leg",leg kicking a Western American Boxer.The Boxer appears to be fine.
Sure is different from the "Masato vs Boxer" video you posted.
Does this mean "All" Thi fighters are poor?Leg kicks are bad?
Reply:dude your right northern kung fu is so unpratical and worthless its just a dance and this movie is proof http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmcqIlJuV... ..its the artist not the art... sides lots of ppl say thier arts the best.... and kung fu has become such a broad term... some ppl train just on pratical combat and some have it more like a dance... for compatitions n stuff.. and if u ever grapple with a kung fu guy whos good at chi'na.... well.... it hurts and nomatter what ya do he always had a counter...ne ways there are good kung fu pratictioners and bad... same as karate or aikido.. u know this
Reply:OK. As a practitioner of Tien Shan Pai, I'd like to respond in defense of all the Kung Fu styles.
First of all, most of those guys don't even use what I would consider Kung Fu techniques. In that first video, I wasn't even sure which guy was the Kung Fu artist. Second, if there are 'deadly techniques' associated with Kung Fu, do you really think You Tube would host a video that showed a guy killing another human being? Guns are deadly, but you don't need to watch a video of a guy getting his head blown off to know that. I'm not saying that I possess any of these so-called 'deadly' techniques, but even if I did, the only videos that demonstrated such techniques would likely be locked up in an evidence locker awaiting my trial.
There have been boxers, Muay Thai fighters, and MMA fighters who have ended fights with one punch. That is not a claim that is exclusive to Kung Fu. As for going to the ground, they guys that took them down were trained grapplers. Guys that don't know how to grapple and try to take someone to the ground often leave themselves open to knee strikes, or other techniques. Trained grapplers know how to shoot and avoid such techniques.
I'm not defending all Kung Fu artists, but I could go to You Tube and download video of any style being beaten by any other style. That only proves that person 'A' beat person 'B'. Neither of those two represent everyone in their art. Would I be able to beat any of those guys? I don't know. I watched the film and saw things that I would do differently. But chances are my opponent wouldn't have done the exact same thing against me, so who can say?
I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I'd just like to point out that your 'research' is anything but scientific or conclusive.
Reply:let me start with this. There is NO perfect martial art - anyone who claims otherwise is deluding themselves. They all have strengths and weaknesses. Kung fu is no different. But you are basing everything on a few videos and on the statements of people who apparently don't understand true marital arts anyways. Not exactly a convincing arguement. I for one don't fight or do tournaments because I don't feel the need to prove anything. I know what I can do and what I can't, and I don't really care if anyone else does. That's not why I do this. You also need to realize ( as several people have already said) its not the art, its the artist. I'm sure if you talked to 10 different M.A.'s in any style, you would see 10 ways of doing things. It depends on the person and the teacher. I for one have to adjust and modify some things because what works for my teacher doesn't always work for me.
overall, it sounds like the people you've been talking to are just that - all talk. A real Kung fu person knows better.
Reply:without even looking at the vids I know what they are going to show.
Some "wassaah" kung fu (cma) guy who didn't train realistically and believed in his "too deadly one punch kill" which he never trained?
Thats pretty much 99% of CMA out there.
I think it is a huge problem in CMA that most schools don't train to fight.
Instead of stating the obvious, I think you should ask why.
Even styles that claim to have the deadly "knuckle sandwich of death" can train everything else, or why can't I train it with a chest/ head protector?
There are times we have sparred in class, without gloves but with chest/head on to feel "empty hand". Is your "dim mak" too strong to train even against someone wearing a chest/head protector- or neck that even with your "awesome chi power" you can't even train it in a sparring situation with light contact to see if you can even practically land it?
It might not be practical to do this every class, but even if you have "the deadly" what good is it if you don't train it?
If you want to test it out, then get some individuals who don't fall under the term "person" for legality (homicide is against a person) like hare krishnas, scientologists, peta members and metrosexuals.
I think CMA, because of its "light training" rep tends to attract people looking for shortcuts.
If you could be a "fighting master" that is so deadly, without having to train hard and only had to put in an hour a week then who the hell wouldn't?
I could think of a hundred extra things to do with the extra time- fact is, it doesn't work like that.
so the people who want to compete- don't look to CMA because they want to go where they have the best odds and connections. Another thing, someone looking to get into the UFC is going to have a lot better opportunities to be seen as part of a gracie or machado school than "cream of sum yung guy's" tai chi academy.
Personally, I want to see this change, I want to see CMA guys (besides san da or cma guys of other styles who enter san da/san shou tournaments/leagues) come out and fight in the major MMA leagues (although I think we are heading for a wba, wbc and ibf alphabet title situation with new mma leagues).
the problem is that I think most cma schools try to attract these people by teaching "the deadly" and "you don't have to train hard" mentality and this reflects poorly on ALL cma schools.
people who want to be career fighters don't go there because they don't have the rep that they work.
It is harder to get a good rep because people who want to be career fighters don't go there.
I'm hoping to see a CMA fighter excell in MMA, but not for the reason to say "look at the deadly!", but because I think that will go a long way to cleaning up CMAs and lifting people's illusions about fighting.
EDIT: CMA is not "gracefull" by dictionary definition, if it is, you aren't fighting you are LARPing. My definition of grace is being able to strike an opponent powerfully with clean technique- "textbook clean technique".
Reply:According to grandmaster Wong Kiew Kit(A practitioner of shaolin kung fu), Kung Fu has mostly degenerated into mostly a DEMONSTRATIVE form of martial arts. Also, according to Kiew Kit, the instructors of a particular art(any art) will usually give vague explanations or mysterious reasons as to why they cannot demonstrate something or explain something in depth when they have something to hide. And what they are trying to conceal is the fact that they may be phonies.
Phony instructors and teachings are not necessarily limited to the art of shaolin kung fu.
What are the fighting styles represented in Kung Fu Hustle?
The baker who fights with sticks and spears - Hunggar
The tailor who fights with iron rings - Hunggar
The mover who kicks a lot of people in the face - Spring Legs
The crazy land lady - Tibetan White Crane
The perverted landlord - Taichi
The axe clan - no style, just brutes.
The two assassins - Eagle Claw? plus a lot of CGI.
Crazy killer guy - initially no style, just super fast CGI. Later Toad kungfu does exist in Shaolin.
Main character - Buddha's Palm, a fictional martial art popularized by Wuxia culture. Many of his actual moves are signature Taichi, but could be from many other styles.
What are the fighting styles represented in Kung Fu Hustle?
Kung fu?!?!
Reply:Lion's Roar, Buddhist Palm, and God knows what else. Just watch it again and see what they say.
Reply:im not really specific cuz i haven't watched it in a while... but the movie tells you what they use don't they? the guy give the people the booklets...try watching it in Chinese. It's more accurate than the English version....Dub kills all
Reply:PSE says alot but you have to remember its just a movie.
The tailor who fights with iron rings - Hunggar
The mover who kicks a lot of people in the face - Spring Legs
The crazy land lady - Tibetan White Crane
The perverted landlord - Taichi
The axe clan - no style, just brutes.
The two assassins - Eagle Claw? plus a lot of CGI.
Crazy killer guy - initially no style, just super fast CGI. Later Toad kungfu does exist in Shaolin.
Main character - Buddha's Palm, a fictional martial art popularized by Wuxia culture. Many of his actual moves are signature Taichi, but could be from many other styles.
What are the fighting styles represented in Kung Fu Hustle?
Kung fu?!?!
Reply:Lion's Roar, Buddhist Palm, and God knows what else. Just watch it again and see what they say.
Reply:im not really specific cuz i haven't watched it in a while... but the movie tells you what they use don't they? the guy give the people the booklets...try watching it in Chinese. It's more accurate than the English version....Dub kills all
Reply:PSE says alot but you have to remember its just a movie.
Do you enjoy a good Drunken Kung Fu Fight as Much as the Next Person?
Without question. Who doesn't?
Do you enjoy a good Drunken Kung Fu Fight as Much as the Next Person?
I'd say more.
Reply:lol yes very much.
Reply:i must say very much so thank you very much
Reply:More so. But how do you tell a good one from a bad one? Breathalysers?
Reply:Watching or being involved in one? If watching, it helps to be drunk because the kung fu to english translation is not nearly as annoying when you're loaded.
Reply:of course!!
Reply:Sure do
cotton tree
Do you enjoy a good Drunken Kung Fu Fight as Much as the Next Person?
I'd say more.
Reply:lol yes very much.
Reply:i must say very much so thank you very much
Reply:More so. But how do you tell a good one from a bad one? Breathalysers?
Reply:Watching or being involved in one? If watching, it helps to be drunk because the kung fu to english translation is not nearly as annoying when you're loaded.
Reply:of course!!
Reply:Sure do
cotton tree
Why do people make funk of kung fu, or any other fighting styles invented in Asia?
You know like...Bruce Lee moves and everything. Why do people make fun of it.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KA95khk8J1M
Why do people make funk of kung fu, or any other fighting styles invented in Asia?
Stereotypes and ignorance. People who makes fun tends to get their a$$ kicked by those who know real kung fu. especially those guy in the clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwV3KnJdQ...
Reply:cuz of this ... http://youtube.com/watch?v=WzUINBCmRC4
Reply:The older kung fu are really funny and dramatic...with the mouth translations and some of the fake moves. I think that's why.
Reply:because their arrogant and think their better and dont include them all as ASIAN, they hate that.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KA95khk8J1M
Why do people make funk of kung fu, or any other fighting styles invented in Asia?
Stereotypes and ignorance. People who makes fun tends to get their a$$ kicked by those who know real kung fu. especially those guy in the clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwV3KnJdQ...
Reply:cuz of this ... http://youtube.com/watch?v=WzUINBCmRC4
Reply:The older kung fu are really funny and dramatic...with the mouth translations and some of the fake moves. I think that's why.
Reply:because their arrogant and think their better and dont include them all as ASIAN, they hate that.
Kung Fu Fight Winner...?
Barney, or Elmo, or Big-Bird?
Kung Fu Fight Winner...?
Big Bird, he can use his wings to fly like those people in the kung fu movies....
Reply:Elmo, because he knows where you live.
Reply:obviously barney. Hes a ******* dinosaur
Reply:Elmo via gogoplata.
Reply:Big Bird, we all know a good big man will always beat the good little man ;)
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Kung Fu Fight Winner...?
Big Bird, he can use his wings to fly like those people in the kung fu movies....
Reply:Elmo, because he knows where you live.
Reply:obviously barney. Hes a ******* dinosaur
Reply:Elmo via gogoplata.
Reply:Big Bird, we all know a good big man will always beat the good little man ;)
how to grow pomegranate
Is Shaolin Kung Fu a good fighting art for actual hand to hand combat?
Is it good for slim, light, flexible people?
Is Shaolin Kung Fu a good fighting art for actual hand to hand combat?
Yes, it is a good fighting art. It is complete in that training includes strikes, grabs, grappling, throws, groundfighting (you didn't know that, did you?), pressure point attacks, joint manipulation, weapons, etc. It has evolved and refined over thousands of years through wars/armed conflict.
Certain kung fu styles work better for people of light build but they can all accommodate light, flexible people. A good teacher can show you how to counter a stronger, bigger opponent. You get out of it what you put into it.
Reply:depends on the fight.
Reply:All together now" It's not the art it's the artist. Shaolin is good. There are many styles within Shaolin. If you have a good instructor, you will learn to defend yourself.
Reply:HELL NO!!!! People will claim they do San Shou/San Da which is untrue. Kung Fu stance are way too rigid and the way their hands are up is awful! It will get them tear up.
You want prove? Notice how none of those guys can give any real description on why it's effective. On other hand I can give you descript why it's uneffective. I can explain why some styles are effective or uneffective.
On other hand yes San Shou/San Da is a good style. It's way more relaxed than most Kung Fu. They also are prepare for more real attack because they're not in rigid stance and they're prepare for many things such as sprawling to prevent take down, their heands are up near head to block blows to the head, they can block low kick, and many more.
Reply:O MAN! Look at the size of those people.
Reply:You bet Sparky !!!
Reply:There are only a handful of techniques in the whole array of Shaolin kung fu that is even practical in a real life street fight. Study Shaolin for the exercises both physically and mentally as well as the "chi". Leave the sports fighting to the guys in the UFC. (Sorry, so far, no Shaolin champions in the UFC)
Also, in real combat, "like on a battle field, life or death" situation, there are NO rules and the most lethal techniques are usually taught by the real fighters and not much good for spectatorship.
Reply:The biggest problem with CMA's (chinese martial arts) is the HUGE amount of bull sh it out there and lack of quality teaching and training.
It is hard to find a good CMA teacher, it is MUCH harder to find a good teacher who teaches the most suspect of chinese martial arts (which in general when someone mentions a cma is suspect). Tai-chi, wing chun and shaolin are the most suspect of CMAs. Tai-chi however, it is fairly easy to tell if the class is geared towards old people and not applying the techniques to fighting, it is just hard to find a teacher that does do this and trains with resisting opponents.
wing chun has a crap reputation, I personally have no experience, nor to my knowledge ever really sparred against a real "chunner". Nor have I to my knowledge sparred against or trained with a real shaolin kung fu guy. However the demos I've seen, and clips of this look highly impractical or they are training with compliant partners.
This would be indicative of the type of training that is commonplace and you would have very very hard time finding a real teacher. You are more likely to fall into the trap of some teacher selling you a load of crap and all they are teaching you is techniques that only work when your partner is compliant.
Reply:Shaolin Kung Fu will teach you a good many things. It will teach you who to keep your body, and mind fit, also how to achieve spiritual fulfillment if you are dedicated. And yes it will teach you how to deal with attackers in a close range situation.
And isnt that what we are all after...
lr
http://www.pacificwingchunassociation.co...
lilycare
Is Shaolin Kung Fu a good fighting art for actual hand to hand combat?
Yes, it is a good fighting art. It is complete in that training includes strikes, grabs, grappling, throws, groundfighting (you didn't know that, did you?), pressure point attacks, joint manipulation, weapons, etc. It has evolved and refined over thousands of years through wars/armed conflict.
Certain kung fu styles work better for people of light build but they can all accommodate light, flexible people. A good teacher can show you how to counter a stronger, bigger opponent. You get out of it what you put into it.
Reply:depends on the fight.
Reply:All together now" It's not the art it's the artist. Shaolin is good. There are many styles within Shaolin. If you have a good instructor, you will learn to defend yourself.
Reply:HELL NO!!!! People will claim they do San Shou/San Da which is untrue. Kung Fu stance are way too rigid and the way their hands are up is awful! It will get them tear up.
You want prove? Notice how none of those guys can give any real description on why it's effective. On other hand I can give you descript why it's uneffective. I can explain why some styles are effective or uneffective.
On other hand yes San Shou/San Da is a good style. It's way more relaxed than most Kung Fu. They also are prepare for more real attack because they're not in rigid stance and they're prepare for many things such as sprawling to prevent take down, their heands are up near head to block blows to the head, they can block low kick, and many more.
Reply:O MAN! Look at the size of those people.
Reply:You bet Sparky !!!
Reply:There are only a handful of techniques in the whole array of Shaolin kung fu that is even practical in a real life street fight. Study Shaolin for the exercises both physically and mentally as well as the "chi". Leave the sports fighting to the guys in the UFC. (Sorry, so far, no Shaolin champions in the UFC)
Also, in real combat, "like on a battle field, life or death" situation, there are NO rules and the most lethal techniques are usually taught by the real fighters and not much good for spectatorship.
Reply:The biggest problem with CMA's (chinese martial arts) is the HUGE amount of bull sh it out there and lack of quality teaching and training.
It is hard to find a good CMA teacher, it is MUCH harder to find a good teacher who teaches the most suspect of chinese martial arts (which in general when someone mentions a cma is suspect). Tai-chi, wing chun and shaolin are the most suspect of CMAs. Tai-chi however, it is fairly easy to tell if the class is geared towards old people and not applying the techniques to fighting, it is just hard to find a teacher that does do this and trains with resisting opponents.
wing chun has a crap reputation, I personally have no experience, nor to my knowledge ever really sparred against a real "chunner". Nor have I to my knowledge sparred against or trained with a real shaolin kung fu guy. However the demos I've seen, and clips of this look highly impractical or they are training with compliant partners.
This would be indicative of the type of training that is commonplace and you would have very very hard time finding a real teacher. You are more likely to fall into the trap of some teacher selling you a load of crap and all they are teaching you is techniques that only work when your partner is compliant.
Reply:Shaolin Kung Fu will teach you a good many things. It will teach you who to keep your body, and mind fit, also how to achieve spiritual fulfillment if you are dedicated. And yes it will teach you how to deal with attackers in a close range situation.
And isnt that what we are all after...
lr
http://www.pacificwingchunassociation.co...
lilycare
My roomate is Chinese, when she walks in I play Kung Fu Fighting on the guitar. She asks why? I say.....?
Because I don't have a gong.
Credit Zach Galifianakis, best comedian ever.
My roomate is Chinese, when she walks in I play Kung Fu Fighting on the guitar. She asks why? I say.....?
What does your roommate play when you walk in?
Reply:some things are best left unexplained! bravo!
Reply:*feeble smile*
Reply:uhm.
Reply:Okaaaay
Reply:because you like to be a pain...
Reply:haha,lol! dude thats funny. what did she say when you told her that?
Reply:haha quite funny...
ill admit i let out a lil smile
Reply:ha ha ha really funny.. :)
Reply:Because I just wantef to make you feel at home.!hay Ihave to tell you for a clean joke thats pretty good do you have anymore.IFf so let me know Ilove joke s that are truly funny as well as clean,there,s never enough., paulstarr35yahoo.com
Reply:IM SORRY, I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICAAA!!
HEY..BAT DAD I DIDNT HEAR NO BELL!!
RANDY MARSH FOR ******* PRESIDENT
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Credit Zach Galifianakis, best comedian ever.
My roomate is Chinese, when she walks in I play Kung Fu Fighting on the guitar. She asks why? I say.....?
What does your roommate play when you walk in?
Reply:some things are best left unexplained! bravo!
Reply:*feeble smile*
Reply:uhm.
Reply:Okaaaay
Reply:because you like to be a pain...
Reply:haha,lol! dude thats funny. what did she say when you told her that?
Reply:haha quite funny...
ill admit i let out a lil smile
Reply:ha ha ha really funny.. :)
Reply:Because I just wantef to make you feel at home.!hay Ihave to tell you for a clean joke thats pretty good do you have anymore.IFf so let me know Ilove joke s that are truly funny as well as clean,there,s never enough., paulstarr35yahoo.com
Reply:IM SORRY, I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICAAA!!
HEY..BAT DAD I DIDNT HEAR NO BELL!!
RANDY MARSH FOR ******* PRESIDENT
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You know I saw some of you NOT kung fu fighting?
Is there a problem?
You know I saw some of you NOT kung fu fighting?
yes..my bad shoulder...I started to cheat at fighting I am now using guns...master would be so disappointed in me...he would say to me...grasshopper..you cheating bastard...of course I would just shoot master...in the foot and watch him hobble around..crying in Chinese..
Reply:yeah the music wasnt loud enough
Reply:yeah..close the door, quit peeking!
Reply:Oh sorry..I havent been here 6 hours..wasnt aware I was supposed to be...
Reply:yeah my Pizza is not here yet
Reply:It was a little bit frightening.
Reply:im sorry! i'm doing it now, are you happy?
Reply:Soooooorrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!! I just wanted a 5 minute break!!
Reply:Accidentally kicked the crap out of myself. Soon as I recover, I'll get right back to it.
You know I saw some of you NOT kung fu fighting?
yes..my bad shoulder...I started to cheat at fighting I am now using guns...master would be so disappointed in me...he would say to me...grasshopper..you cheating bastard...of course I would just shoot master...in the foot and watch him hobble around..crying in Chinese..
Reply:yeah the music wasnt loud enough
Reply:yeah..close the door, quit peeking!
Reply:Oh sorry..I havent been here 6 hours..wasnt aware I was supposed to be...
Reply:yeah my Pizza is not here yet
Reply:It was a little bit frightening.
Reply:im sorry! i'm doing it now, are you happy?
Reply:Soooooorrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!! I just wanted a 5 minute break!!
Reply:Accidentally kicked the crap out of myself. Soon as I recover, I'll get right back to it.
Who sang the original version of Kung Fu Fighting?
Carl Douglas in 1974. It has been re-released at least twice since then. His other singles were called Dance the Kung Fu and Blue Eyed Soul.
Who sang the original version of Kung Fu Fighting?
Carl Douglas.
Reply:Carl Douglas. Big hit
Reply:Carl Douglas. I have as a mp3 song, I listen to it on my 3 mp3 players that I have.
Who sang the original version of Kung Fu Fighting?
Carl Douglas.
Reply:Carl Douglas. Big hit
Reply:Carl Douglas. I have as a mp3 song, I listen to it on my 3 mp3 players that I have.
I can't find the song Kung Fu Fighting - Carl Douglas on Yahoo! Music Engine!?
I can't find the song! I typed it in search and it still doesn't have the button to buy the song. Where can I find it?
I can't find the song Kung Fu Fighting - Carl Douglas on Yahoo! Music Engine!?
right click...then "save target as"
http://www.wac77.com/features_pages/musi...
Reply:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zub7o3Mgu...
i found it on youtube.com
I can't find the song Kung Fu Fighting - Carl Douglas on Yahoo! Music Engine!?
right click...then "save target as"
http://www.wac77.com/features_pages/musi...
Reply:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zub7o3Mgu...
i found it on youtube.com
Who sings the song that goes...Everybody loves kung fu fighting....? THX for my son.?
carl douglas
Who sings the song that goes...Everybody loves kung fu fighting....? THX for my son.?
Carl Douglas
Reply:Carl Douglas
Reply:Carl Douglas.
Reply:It's carl douglas and the line is everybody was kung fu fighting
Reply:Kung Fu Fighting. Those kids were fast as lighting
CARL LEWIS ( Song From the 70's and)
Reply:that would be Carl Douglas released in 1974
Who sings the song that goes...Everybody loves kung fu fighting....? THX for my son.?
Carl Douglas
Reply:Carl Douglas
Reply:Carl Douglas.
Reply:It's carl douglas and the line is everybody was kung fu fighting
Reply:Kung Fu Fighting. Those kids were fast as lighting
CARL LEWIS ( Song From the 70's and)
Reply:that would be Carl Douglas released in 1974
Who sing the song kung fu fighting and what is the name of his album?
in 1974 when i was in uk this was a very favorite song in dicos. i want to down load from net please help.
Who sing the song kung fu fighting and what is the name of his album?
Carl Douglas.
That took me about 4 seconds by putting the name of the song in a search engine.
Probably less time than it took you to ask the question here at Yahoo Answers.
Reply:Carl Douglas
http://www.amazon.com/Carl-Douglas/artis...
Reply:Yep, Carl Douglas did the original in 75 but he never released an album ..... easy to find it on any download sites and it's usually featured on most 70's compilation albums.
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Who sing the song kung fu fighting and what is the name of his album?
Carl Douglas.
That took me about 4 seconds by putting the name of the song in a search engine.
Probably less time than it took you to ask the question here at Yahoo Answers.
Reply:Carl Douglas
http://www.amazon.com/Carl-Douglas/artis...
Reply:Yep, Carl Douglas did the original in 75 but he never released an album ..... easy to find it on any download sites and it's usually featured on most 70's compilation albums.
flowers baby
Who sung everybody was kung fu fighting?
Karate Kid
Who sung everybody was kung fu fighting?
Karl Douglas
Reply:same answer as most- karl douglas
Reply:Karl Douglas - Thanks for stimulating a nice memory for me with your question - I can still see a girl I used to work with doing the dance to Kung Fu Fighting on the desk in the middle of the office :)
Reply:RUN DMC
Reply:Carl Douglas.
Reply:Ah...Monkey!! Carl Douglas - when was it now...summer 1974 (or was it nearer Christmas)?
Reply:carl douglas, Nov (ish) 1974.... i was 18...
seerms like yesterday, however it cant be as im 50 in 3 weeks
Reply:Carl Douglas - what a truly great song!
Reply:Carl Douglas.....WITH A 'C'!!!
Reply:carl douglas
Reply:Caarl Douglas??
Reply:Karl Douglas with a "K"
Reply:I believe it was Carl Douglas!
WITH A 'C' not a 'K'!!! To be picky!!!!
Reply:Karl Douglas...great song in it's day!!
Reply:Carl Douglas - 1974
Reply:Karl Douglas - 1975
Reply:Carl douglas
Reply:I believe it was Carl Douglas
Reply:carl douglas did
Reply:Karl Douglas
Reply:yeah its Karl Douglas
Reply:Carl Douglas and it has to be true because when I thought of it I backed it up by looking on google hope i helped
Who sung everybody was kung fu fighting?
Karl Douglas
Reply:same answer as most- karl douglas
Reply:Karl Douglas - Thanks for stimulating a nice memory for me with your question - I can still see a girl I used to work with doing the dance to Kung Fu Fighting on the desk in the middle of the office :)
Reply:RUN DMC
Reply:Carl Douglas.
Reply:Ah...Monkey!! Carl Douglas - when was it now...summer 1974 (or was it nearer Christmas)?
Reply:carl douglas, Nov (ish) 1974.... i was 18...
seerms like yesterday, however it cant be as im 50 in 3 weeks
Reply:Carl Douglas - what a truly great song!
Reply:Carl Douglas.....WITH A 'C'!!!
Reply:carl douglas
Reply:Caarl Douglas??
Reply:Karl Douglas with a "K"
Reply:I believe it was Carl Douglas!
WITH A 'C' not a 'K'!!! To be picky!!!!
Reply:Karl Douglas...great song in it's day!!
Reply:Carl Douglas - 1974
Reply:Karl Douglas - 1975
Reply:Carl douglas
Reply:I believe it was Carl Douglas
Reply:carl douglas did
Reply:Karl Douglas
Reply:yeah its Karl Douglas
Reply:Carl Douglas and it has to be true because when I thought of it I backed it up by looking on google hope i helped
Has anyone been kung-fu fighting as in regards to MO YC 07?
Why no, no I haven't.
Has anyone been kung-fu fighting as in regards to MO YC 07?
i live in missouri and used to box and was silver mittens champion for 3 yrs, i've never kicked box but it would be fun : )
Has anyone been kung-fu fighting as in regards to MO YC 07?
i live in missouri and used to box and was silver mittens champion for 3 yrs, i've never kicked box but it would be fun : )
If everybody was kung fu fighting, would those cats really be as fast as lightning?
yeah... that's the point... to get the cats as fast as lightning. but what's really bothering me is how do the cats actually get that fast by kung fu fighting.
you can explain this major issue of society by asking the two important questions:
1)do cats want to be as fast as lighting and why?
2)are all cats able to kung fu fight?
If everybody was kung fu fighting, would those cats really be as fast as lightning?
yes!
Reply:mines would definatly be
Reply:Heck yes!
Reply:I've seen it.
Reply:da boondocks
lol afro samurai better
Reply:If Carl Douglas says so...yes
Reply:dont know, i dont live in funky China town
Reply:yes
Reply:Well that would be a little bit frightning
but theyd do it with expert timing.
Try the new- TMNT film- them Turtles sure can fight- good film.lol lv Jo xx
Reply:If everybody was Kung Fu Fighting, cats would be fighting in slow motion actually.
But the slow motion would be how you see the cats fighting. But really, they are fast as lightning, its just that you wouldn't be able to see a mutherfuckin lighting strike of a left right kick to the head combo, so you see slow motion like.
Reply:Faster actually they are quite capable
you can explain this major issue of society by asking the two important questions:
1)do cats want to be as fast as lighting and why?
2)are all cats able to kung fu fight?
If everybody was kung fu fighting, would those cats really be as fast as lightning?
yes!
Reply:mines would definatly be
Reply:Heck yes!
Reply:I've seen it.
Reply:da boondocks
lol afro samurai better
Reply:If Carl Douglas says so...yes
Reply:dont know, i dont live in funky China town
Reply:yes
Reply:Well that would be a little bit frightning
but theyd do it with expert timing.
Try the new- TMNT film- them Turtles sure can fight- good film.lol lv Jo xx
Reply:If everybody was Kung Fu Fighting, cats would be fighting in slow motion actually.
But the slow motion would be how you see the cats fighting. But really, they are fast as lightning, its just that you wouldn't be able to see a mutherfuckin lighting strike of a left right kick to the head combo, so you see slow motion like.
Reply:Faster actually they are quite capable
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