Aikido vs kung fu?

who do you think would win in a ufc fight a kung fu black belt or an aikido black belt

Aikido vs kung fu?
Aiki-Jitsu is extremely dangerous and it is what Aiki-do was derived (just as Ju-do was derived from Ju-jutsu).





Today Aikido is extremely defense oriented but nevertheless effective. Aikido really isn't designed for a prize fighting environment for pugilists to strut their stuff in front of screaming fans, Aikido is really for self-defense in a back alley at night in the winter against hoodlums.





Kung Fu can be applied to a prize-fighting environment, but that would be a real waste of your kung fu talent. Like Aikido, Kung fu is meant to be used for self-defense against severe assault to justify your finger strikes to the eyes and other gouging techniques required by kung fu.
Reply:well in aikido you dont learn how to "attack" its all about redirecting the opponents' motion so it came down to points an aikido practitioner would lose points due to passiveness in the fight and no controlling the octagon.





and on the other hand there are tons of different kung fus need to be a little more specific.





anyways it totally depends on how the person used the style they learned
Reply:omfg aikido is cr*p i went to join an aikido club and it was a slow motion moving like a gaint pansy. so i joined a karate club instead.





kung fu is amazing, they know alot of awesome moves.





KUNG FU all the way
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Reply:If it's going by a point system, Aikido would not 'win.' It's primarily a reaction based system, and while very effective and efficient in an actual fight, it would not 'win' in this scenario... If you even call that winning in battle. Last I checked, there was no point system in a true battle.





This is not absolute, however.





You can speculate all you want, even watch a fight or two with sets close to what you say here, but you would get no definitive answer. What is more important here is not the art, but the practicioner of that art. Any martial art can be 'lethal' or 'passive' depending on the warrior that uses it. There are users of aggressive arts that have been overtaken by practicioners of Tai Chi Chuan and the like. It's the person, not the style, that makes the difference.
Reply:well kung fu is too wide of a term. there are many types of kung fu, and in fact aikido might be in a sub-category of this.





aikido is a style of fighting that is meant to bring down an attacker with MINIMAL EFFORT. the main goal is to simply redirrect an attackers force, and not oppose it directly. thus, not using much energy. if mastered, an aikido blackbelt can take down an attacker without breaking a sweat, because of how little effort is required.
Reply:Well a large amount of aikido techniques are illegal in UFC because they would break joints too fast and manipulate small joints. The techniques are not meant for sport and many of them could leave people permanently crippled.


Ex: if your threw someone using shihonage and they resisted you could tear out many of the muscles and tendons in the shoulder.





Aikido can be offensive but that is only at the higher levels after the aikidoka has learned how to do technique well and concentrate their power.





Also aikido is more for situations where someone is coming at you full force and trying to SERIOUSLY hurt you. Unlike in MMA in real life people won't jab at you if they're trying to kill you. They will charge, strike hard, or use a weapon.





It would also depend on the style on kung fu and stlye of aikido. Some styles would be more susceptible to aikido techniques due to the range. Aikido is a longer range fighting style than say Wing Chun or Southern Mantis Kung Fu.


Also in aikido most of the styles (excepting yoshinkan) do not put much emphasis on applicable technique.





And while I do train in aikido it has a long learning curve. There's a saying that you only begin to understand it at 3rd degree blackbelt, that that's the "first step" if you will.





I think Kung Fu would beat aikido at the lower levels but if you had a high level aikidoka (especially yoshinkan) vs a high level kung fu practitioner the aikidoka would win.





But in the end as has been said over and over.


ITS THE PRACTITIONER NOT THE ART.


A shitty kung fu guy will never beat a good aikido guy. And a shitty aikido guy will never beat a good kung fu guy.
Reply:akido is more passive like redirecting the attack but they also have a fighting style but its not very affective if they were the fighter but u still have to look at the fighters more then the style because u could have a great kung fu guy that would kill akido or u could have a great akido guy that could kill a kung fu. hope this helps
Reply:The Kung Fu stylist, although traditional CMA's do not use belts.





So yeah, really any kung fu style except Tai Chi, Pa Kua, or Xingyi, but even so...
Reply:It would come down to the person. When you have two semi-contact styles coming together you end up with a low grade scuffle that looks like neither of the original styles.





Both would have spent all of their careers sparring(assuming they even spar) only their own guys and expecting them to react a certain way and when they don't it ends up like two kids in a sandpit





As a greco wrestler I used to go along to aikido and because we did not comply with all the throws the blackbelt expected to work(they could not even grip us actually) we would get asked to leave.





And kung fu guys, as a boxer I went into along to one of their comps, having heard they mostly used hand styles anyway, and having knocked the first two guys out with jabs the crowd cottoned on I was not kung fu and I was disqualified.
Reply:Shinbu, Yoshinkan, and Tomiki Aikido are the top 3 styles of Aikido. But in Aikido they would not be aloud to use 80% of there techniques.





As for Kung Fu they are many styles with them as well and I am sure that they wouldnt be aloud to use all of there techniques either
Reply:Aikido techniques are not allowed in MMA so its too dificult to answer your question, besides it depends about kung fu style