Thursday, November 12, 2009

Has any1 with tai chi experienced ever beat a kung fu, boxer, or kickboxer?

If u had experience in tai chi, did u ever use tai chi and only tai chi to fight someone effectively? If not do you think it would be effective?

Has any1 with tai chi experienced ever beat a kung fu, boxer, or kickboxer?
I am sure that a practitioner of Tai Chi has defeated a boxer or a kick-boxer at some point and time. There is some confusion going here as to whether Tai Chi is a martial art and for good reason. I do have experience with Tai Chi, but it was not the self-defense branch that has only recently sprouted.





I remember 20 years ago in Kowloon Park the only people practicing Tai Chi were mostly what looked like 70 year old women. They are still there every morning to this day.





However, Tai Chi has been developed into a Martial Art since that time and very much resembles Kung Fu. From what I saw this mostly happened on the islands of Hong Kong where the SAR (Special Administrative Region) residents had some resentment toward practicing the mainland art that we call Kung Fu. Both come from the Qi Gong tree and Principles of the Yellow Emperor.





Either way, Tai Chi is fluid. It is has laways been considered a hard-water elemental art. Although I can find no evidence of Tai Chi being used in self defense prior to the last 20 years. Everything that goes to the West gets commericalized and some confusion is created in the process. I hope this explanation helps to clear up some of the confusion of the answers as most MA see Tai Chi as a soft art.





At the same time, the questioner in this case has done little to demonstrate that he is, or ever has studied Tai Chi. There no need for a harsh defense in the additions to the original question. Instead there should be explanation and sharing of knowledge if that knowledge is present. It does not appear to be in this case.
Reply:I'm pretty sure Tai chi is really only used for exercising, and it's not really a valid Martial art for self defense.
Reply:I do Chen style Taiji. Different schools emphasize different aspects of Taiji. Some stress the health aspects, and some stress fighting. Taiji (and any other martial art) is only as effective as the practitioner. A so-so practitioner of any style doesn't stand a chance against a dedicated practitioner of any other style.





Having said that, Chen style Taijiquan is highly effective, if you spend A LOT of time on it. It takes at least 5 years to begin to understand the fighting aspect, unlike some other styles with more immediate applicability. A friend of mine who is former Navy, and a grappler / boxer took taiji, and found it very useful.





Taiji stresses close-range combat with largely elbow and shoulder strikes, which are very painful and useful on the streets. Try it for yourself. Do some "push hands" with a taiji practitioner.
Reply:My Wing Chun Sifu does Tai Chi and uses it in sparring regulary, every time he does he hands me my **** on a plate. He's been doing it for 12 years though and train combat application so he should know how to do it properly.
Reply:I have done tai chi but i wouldn't dare use it cause i would get my *** kicked. I would doubt it would work because with tai chi you do it on your own you have no one to practice with.


Where on the other hand kickboxing they train with other people so they have more experience in fighting more "hands on"
Reply:Nope, only if the non Tai Chi guy was blindfolded, hands and feet tied and drunk.
Reply:NO YOU ARE DUMB GO HOME LOSER!
Reply:Taiji IS a kung fu discipline!





It sounds like "Reality" has only practiced the forms.


Taiji is also taught as a martial art This includes practicing with/against an opponent or multiple opponents AFTER you have learned the forms.


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Reply:Ive beaten capoeira practitioners with tai chi. Sure it is very hard to keep tai chi from dring a heated capoeira match, but it really put the match in my favor.





I have aslo beaten kung fu practitioners with just tai chi. I instinctively react tai chi style in a fight, and it always brings good things.





I wouldn't reccomend trying this if you are a beginner at tai chi.





Also, my shaolin-do school has many partner exercises in tai chi, THere are many ways to practice tai chi on someone.
Reply:When I was in my mid twenty’s, and a ranked fighter, with blinding speed. I was schooled by an old, bald, fat tai chi man, in a sparring session.


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